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Please remember dupe was only originally added to VIP from Users because it was first exploited by average users to break the server and crash it, but nowadays it's purely for financial gain. +1 If Users could simply save constructs they liked I think that'd still be able to solve those two original issues. People can't exploit because they can only save, and Garnet still gets the funds, likely even moreso, from people wishing to get VIP for Adv Dupe. You can look at the (probably 100) historical adv dupe suggestion posts and they ALL repeat the exact same talking points btw, refer to that first in order to avoid regurgitating stuff about this. TL;DR - It'd be an incentive for users to donate for VIP, and it'd still be secure in regards to exploits. +1

The whole reason it was made VIP+ is because people found ways to exploit it to affect server performance, and in some cases crash the entire server. Also a playtime cap would help for sure, but DarkRP has some really motivated people who just go to wreak havoc, they'll just AFK until it unlocks if they truly want to exploit. Keep it to VIP+, -1. Adv. Dupe 2 used to be free to everyone until recently I believe, where people started abusing it more. (take this with a grain of salt, I haven't been on in a while so my memory might not be perfect)

Crazy how we went from thinking the skill trees were a step above the rest to now having full commendations, ambushes, game modes, and automated events. Keep it up Mr. G.

I have a feeling that when they don't have the ability to prop spam they'll just flowchart down to RDM or other means lol, good changes though.

Man, I log back in after a while to see the man himself that made SWRP the greatest has returned, I may need to hop back on the 501st SWRP grind... Can't wait to see my beloved 501st First Squad back

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Everyone's got to move on eventually, good luck proggy <3.

@Ziggy (doin this because no one else has) I personally feel like this ban wasn't entirely proportional to the wrong he committed way back whenever it was (i'm not good with dates). Not to mention the extended history Conway has in regards to community contributions for MRP and SWRP, and how he could influence the current state of the communities would prove beneficial. I admit though, I don't know the story behind why he was banned but I 100% vouch for his potential future contributions. +1 o7 brother.

Was excellent to play with on SWRP during events from what I remember around when he was active, and if memory serves correctly, his events were well coordinated, had good flexibility and were just generally engaging. +1 to the scale skinned basement dweller ?!?!?!

You are right, I did not expect you to write out regurgitated points, that was my fault for not investigating. However there is still merit in exploring previously explored suggestions, probably not in this case though, as I didn't realize how often it had been suggested. The suggestion for the CS changes to be implemented to GMOD was stupid. Raiding pvp is less about the weapon balance (excluding raiding tools) and more about base design skill, so its not really a good test for deciding whether or not is effective. Also i forgot that the in game store was a thing, that definitely does aid lower level players. I didnt really consider the situations that the dlore would be used in, but looking on it now the dlore is fine as it is. Previously i thought that it'd be a benefit more than the the harm caused by nerfing dono's, but realizing that the situations in which the Dlore is used are limited, it isnt worth it. All in all, it is clear to me after reading your points that the Dlore is probably not the thing that should be adjusted for balance (im switching to -1) For all people still scrolling through this, if you take anything away from this suggestion, this'd be it.

But there would still be an effect that would benefit the newer players no? The purpose of my +1 is to bring up the fact that lower level players are kind of helpless if they do not have the means to counteract the extensive loadout and mobile armoury that higher level players mostly have. This means that if we nerf a gun mostly higher levelled players have, they will have more of a chance. If a player is actually good at the game then that is of no fault of balancing. I understand what you mean though, it would be a quite annoying and redundant nerf for players who are naturally less skilled but i guess its an incentive to get good.

So what exactly are the arguments against this aside from "I want my 10 shot, almost guaranteed death, boomstick", "CSGO =/ GMOD", and "Another nerf Dlore post"? AW50 could potentially be a matchup alternative for non-dono's, but I've never used it, and donators also have a plethora of alternatives. The active donators also happen to comprise the DarkRP 1%, in other words they have the most cash out of all players, meaning that they can exchange it In game for credits, unbox whatever powerful weapon (DB, RPG, Dlore, etc), and buy whatever guns they want from dealers (if they are that desperate). However, lower levelled players just starting out or even mid level players do not usually have access to these weapons unless they spend the money to buy them (which is unreasonable to expect), meaning they have less of a chance to win, or farm printers, or raid, or mug. For whoever cant piece it together, high level players have an overwhelming advantage over pretty much everyone else, and removing 5 bullets from the clip of an almost guaranteed 1 shot machine isn't much in comparison. As for high level combat between players with full perks and loadout of weapons, the dlore does play a pretty big role, but then again, you just have to hit your shots, or switch to the DB, or Stryker, or FG, or anything else. +1, I am willing to change my mind if anyone can actually make an argument against it however, as I have been inactive in recent time and im not sure of most things I knew of back then. And also, maybe the reason it gets suggested regularly is because people think there IS an issue, and by dismissing it as "another nerf dlore post" there is no hope for any actual discussion. EDIT: Dear lord there are so many denials of a Dlore nerf, i was not aware. -1.

See ya around man.