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Denied. This thread has gone completely off-topic. Printer alts, Candy's income, Granny's net worth, etc. none of these have anything at all to do with whether fishing should be possible from inside a base - which proves to me that you already lost your point/narrative and are honestly just blabbering on at this point. Fishing was intended to give NEW players without VIP or money for maxed printers a way to make money and level - active fishing on its own is much better than printing and requires no start-up costs. It was not intended as a viable way for veteran/older players to use as another passive income source while hiding in their base safely. And even moree importantly, this wasn't a theoretical problem. We had QUITE A FEW botters pop up that I personally (quietly) banned. Allowing fishing from anywhere without movement, IE: inside bases again recreates the exact problem i just solved that was used to sell our in-game currency for real cash that I caught. AGAIN, the fact that your entire argument isn't even about how broken fihsing was (because you know you can't defend it in good faith) has entirely shifted to attacking completely different money-making methods rather than defending why this mechanic was healthy for garnet tells me everything. Final note: I'm open to more fishing spots around the map. Fishing from inside bases is not coming back. If you make this same request again, I will consider it shitposting and warn - because you were given a firm answer. EDIT: I FORGOT TO MENTION, when you ask to bring back "old fishing spots" you really mean unrestricted access to fish in any water texture on our map, including drains, fountain water, etc.

+1 I think it would be funny as fuck, ngl. but besides being funny, it would be cool to see an alternative to being mayor I feel like there could be a lot done with this.

+1 I’m a huge Star Wars fan, and the way you described this class is amazing. I really think this class would get used a lot by players.

Nutter Offered an Alternative which I would love to talk more about so we can actually get it done, Expanding on what nutter is saying, if it's possible to have a selectable zone between the beach and sewers that would be great, I think adding more spots is awesome, but adding more spots between selectable zones would be even nicer. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3783723667 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3783723678 This general area in the sewers is somewhere i fished before with @IAmAdv, I like the area a lot and with all those spots where you can build down there maybe some of them will get used more Pretty Solid Point, Sailor Kinda feels a bit redundant at the moment other than well it's just extra fisherman slots for people. If there was "job data" then granny would be number one on playtime on fisherman by a very significant margin I would assume, she came on from day to night and she only played fisherman. spending alot of time with granny as she was in our clan for some time, her life was coming on gmod and her karaoke nights basically.

+1 Would be dope to see this added giving a new refreshed outlook on mayor for the older and prestiged players

This seems cool +1, would love to figure out a way to get a class like this on the server in some way or another Steam Workshop::STAR WARS Emperor Palpatine Playermodel - Pretty small too at only 2.2mb

Description: Add an "Emperor Palpatine" class to DarkRP. This would function identically to Mayor, except for having the "Lightning Strike" SWEP from the Flash Class. Definitely would be a Prestige Class, reasonably would be set at around Prestige 2 - 3 at Level 50-ish. For obvious reasons, the Mayor class could not be selectable while the Palpatine class is active.Reasoning: The Flash has been pretty underwhelming, but by far the funniest part (for me) is the Lightning Strike ability. Please let me (and others ig) become the Senate. Also, I think it would be cool to finally have another option to do Mayor stuff as, besides just Dr. Breen. Combine Soldiers also look like Stormtroopers (maybe their skins could even be overridden to Stormtroopers while the Emperor class is active ).Additional Information: POWERRRR! UNLIMITED POWERRRR!!!!!!!

Neutral My two cents is that while making different fishing spots would be nicer, I would prefer it so that they don't shuffle around. I do mind having to move around as a fisherman, because it basically turns the class into pseudo-deliveryman. I think the spots are a great idea, because obviously fishing in a base is OP - but I think it should be moreso that there are just zones where fishing is allowed and not just "ok you fished here twice, now go wander into Sewers." Realistically, the ideal change would be "Fisherman can't base with printers." While on the topic, the change also kinda makes Sailor as a class functionally useless, because basing in the water on a "boat" has 0 point, if none of the fishing points are near where your base is. I don't agree with bringing Fisherman back to "full power" but I also think that having set fishing spots is silly. ROFL at Candy (probably the most active alt printer farmer) -1ing this because he's worried about people being a "recluse for a few hours" though. You Garnet Gaming players are something else man.

I'm reading abusing the eco and money system being told to us by the same people who will load the server 60% up with alts to then idk abuse the money and eco system while I'm neutral on having to move around to fish I don't agree with people preaching money abuse while doing it themselves with alts. Fisherman You may not perform illegal activities such as mugging or raiding. You may counter illegal activities. You may own money printers and a base. (Printers cannot be stored in your fishing hut; that is a separate entity) You are immune to lockdowns while you are within the map's beach and ocean areas. You may create a small hut for your fishing operation in direct vicinity of the water. (A shack, small structure, or boat) Your fishing structure may not contain illegal items. You may not trap players in your structure. Also adding this in here because I don''t know why nobody has pointed this out until now. Number 3 not a single person who fisherman bases follows that rule of having a whole separate base for fishing and your printers if a person takes up the whole cave thats the hut they're fishing from that while also storing printers in those bases(huts).

Y'all ain't ready for this 3v1 comeback tho All in good fun, fellas; I fucking love to debate/do discussions n shit. I couldn't be bothered to make 2 separate posts, so you'll get a tag instead @Candy_ Granny actually had to make 100m at the minimum to get where she is now; only she did not gain this overnight. I believe she has 1000 hours on the server before being banned, and she spent almost every minute of that fishing inside of her base alongside having her own printers and the printers from all the GCA members. Also, we CANNOT be talking about abusing for money when you guys can print at a ridiculous rate with how many alts you guys have combined. (Not hating on alts, btw I couldn't care less wtf you do with your accounts. I have alts myself, so it would be hypocritical of me to say something about it.) Candy's alts alone can print 6.4m AN HOUR, counting the amount it would take to upgrade all of these printers to max level; all he would need to do is farm for 1 day- even less, 17 hours- to make Granny's ENTIRE NET WORTH with money left over. I don't know about you guys, but this time frame is a lot shorter than 1000 hours. And this is just candy alone; everyone knows you guys all have alts and share them with each other overnight, meaning this time frame to make this amount is even SHORTER than what I listed. It is very easy for you guys to immediately jump on here and disagree with anything fishing wise bc you guys aren't the ones affected. If one day, for whatever reason, Nutter decided alts were hurting the server more than benefiting it and prohibited the use of them, you guys would be livid. Why? Because your best money-making strat was just removed from the game. This is mostly the same scenario, but for people whose best money-making method was fishing in a base and printing. Speaking for everyone else who, again, does not have the luxury of having several alt accounts to farm money, fish basing was the next best thing. I never stated that fishing itself was dead. Not once in any of my posts and responses. People who simply go to the beach and fish are probably fine with the new system. My point was that Fish basing was dead. The concept of basing with printers in a spot where water is found, in order to gain money from fishing alongside printing money. Here's my original post where I state all I wanted was more spots to fish in to continue fish basing, even if it involves the new fishing system. Or revamping the system if it was not possible in these spots. I know scripting was a major issue; whatever you guys had to do to rid of it. It's a good thing that it's prevented now. The goat also said Again, the new system isnt the issue guys. its the number of spots that the system is limited to. 2 spots, beach and sewers For candy: "having an option like fishing kept players engaged in the game while earning money quickly." makes no sense to me also because, fishing was never removed? You can still make money quickly from it. You cannot just sit down in one spot for hours on end like you used too. Ill take the L on this one lmfao. Ps. I lost my train of thought, and I wanted to play Ninja Gaiden so I probably didn't cover one of your guy's points. LOL gg

Gr4nny made 10+ mil with that job and prestiged faster surpassing me and most of the player base just on that job alone. Yes its harder to protect your base and farm as a fisherman. Maybe get a team or put together a clan so you fish and have them protect printers. Like candy said this is a way to make the job more of a job than just an abusable thing to make money. Its not dead ur just not being creative. Also this is to protect the server from scripters using this job, another major issue with fisherman for a while. Now you actually have to move around just like real fisherman. GGz

My problem is your stating fishing is dead while the fact is that nothing truly changed within fishing. This change just made fishing an actual job, and not another form of farming printers as it was used. If this remarks a class as dead, then you didn't use it for the class you just used it as another quicker printer, nothing is stopping you from doing the exact same farming strategy as before (printers and fishing) while running around, while yes, of course the amount you can make doing it per hour has dropped, this by no means makes the class"dead", with your last statement "having an option like fishing kept players engaged in the game while earning money quickly." makes no sense to me also because, fishing was never removed? You can still make money quickly from it. You cannot just sit down in one spot for hours on end like you used too.

You mean intended as a way to earn money and xp? Along side basing with printers to further increase income. A majority of the player base does not have the luxury to run 32 separate accounts to earn money quickly, so having an option like fishing kept players engaged in the game while earning money quickly.

It's not dead by any means, the only thing that changed is now you cant sit in a base along side printers for hours and do it. If that remarks the class as dead, you never really used the class as it was intended.

Damn so fish basing is dead completely? Fucking macros. Unfortunate, if the fishing mains wanna request a spot now would be the time ig.

You have plenty of alternative bases you can use where there are fishing spots directly outside of them? (Beach has 4, and sewers have 6 IIRC). I wouldn't mind adding more spots, but bare in mind, these spots will not be accessible from the inside of bases

Chat, did I get humbled? (I did). I dont mind moving spot to spot, just add more spots inside bases is all im saying, theres plenty of room to move around in there.

-1 No, you can still base and fish, it's in the rules. All it requires now is just moving in between spots, i don't see the issue unless you wanted to just be a recluse for hours. and as you've once said yourself, "you guys make millions and millions of dollars by clicking once and pressing a few keys. You can handle being killed (running around) from time to time."

Description: Because some asshole had to ruin fishing for everyone, we are limited to a few spots now that we can fish at and can't really base anywhere. It's unfortunate, but I guess it had to be done. Can we at least add a few more spots, like the suburbs, houses, and buildings that have water spots, so we can base and fish? Or even revamp the macro detection system to something like a movement sequence that pops up, and if it's not followed, it pings staff chat to check if the player is using a macro. Reasoning: I just wanna not be broke, man LOL. I wanna base and fish Additional Information:

this is gold.

Imagine making this post to not die; When you are cheating in-game by botting (macroing) fishing. Talk about brining attention to yourself in the wrong ways. There is rules for it..... and no. They will stay hitable. (Also botting is against the rules by the way see you when you appeal) Denied

-1 you guys make millions and millions of dollars by clicking once and pressing a few keys. You can handle being killed from time to time.

-1 we should keep adding and removing jobs next people will say deliverymen or regular civ