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And waste precious XP that I could be getting from 100k-150k withdraws? fat chance. Not to mention I can't even get back the XP they would've taken. That in itself is very wrong. I'm speaking in terms of raids that happen on you. Not you raiding others. That's a whole different ballgame. I'm saying if somebody raids YOUR base and they die, and either come back and don't advert over, or they break the 20 minute timer and raid again and take your stuff that's what I mean. They might not be "forcing" me, but any sensible player that knows how the game works would know that XP is wasted if you just take the money as it comes in. Nobody does that. All the grinders I know let it sit.

I believe that statement gives even more incentive for players raiding to violate NLR on big bases in order to get a big cashout for a simple warning/jail. I think that an incremental punishment system would be necessary for something like this to be implemented. Something like, per 200k the punishment increases. First 200k - Warning for "Not Compensating a Bad Raid Loss", and at the 400k mark, a warning for the same thing along with a 12 hour ban, and for 600k, a warning for the same thing along with a 24 hour ban. And for anything 800k+ is a 3 day ban if not compensated. I believe a system of punishment like this is necessary to combat these things, even with how little it happens it still does happen.

So I'm missing the part on why people who do this should be allowed to get away with keeping X amount of dollars they illegally took against server rules without a heftier punishment.

I vaguely remember you when I was around in 2021 and 2022. Its jaren the big memer. Don't know if you remember me but I remember you at least by name. Hope your doing alright and life's going good for you and everything.

The reason its a scam is because either A. you defended your base successfully from the person who raided you and they either came back mid raid or before the 20 minute timer and take your hard earned money your grinding back up. Thats the scam, the fact they broke the timer or NLR to come back and illegally against server rules to take your money. Therefore not giving it back and only getting a warn/jail is the scam. You the player get scammed. The player that got warned/jailed doesnt care about their punishment and will continue to break server rules. You get scammed out of true justice. Your comparing apples to oranges, when guns cost less then typical printer stashes in MOST cases. if somebody has 10 printers with 30k, thats 300k. No gun costs 300k. The idea of being punished for scamming is enough to convince them to give it back. It isn't forcing, and if they don't give it they get punished. Simple. This also in itself coerces the players of the server to follow the raid timer and NLR rules, as if they slip up and happen to take money from a printer they get in significantly more trouble then an ordinary NLR warning. So your telling me, someone who has been spending hours grinding and loses 100k on all 12 of their printers, over a mil isn't being scammed out of their time, money, and justice? What the heck is a NLR/Failrp warning/jail going to do to deter the player from doing it again, or serve true justice?

ik this seems like 2022 was awhile ago, but i got unbanned this year after being banned since november of 2022 so i thought id see who was around and have memories from garnet darkrp or maybe something else.

Who are you reporting? [Staff/Player]: Sas Mate Your in-game name: StS MO Jaren Your SteamID (https://steamid.io/): STEAM_0:1:127357723 In-game name of reportee: Sas Mate SteamID of reportee (https://steamid.io/): STEAM_0:1:207759668 Date & Time of incident: 4/15/24 around 8 AM Timezone: CST What happened? (include any proof): I was dealing with toxic players such as mayors cum guzzler (who was banned and evaded within 5 minutes) and others who thought doodle was being biased and helping me (they weren't) so they decided to harass me. I deem this as toxic and wrong for the server. Sas Mate told me to end my life (kill myself basically) along with mayors cum guzzler. Proof: Clip 1 Clip 2 (unedited 30 second clip to prove it isnt edited)

Yea, the request license feature appears to be unimplemented and it would go a long way to adding this. +1

Description: It should be amended to the rules that taking from printer(s) when you have broken the raid timer for a base, or came back after dying in a raid and take any amount of money that the player should have to give said money back. The reporter would have to have a clip that shows how much money was in the printers close enough to the raid that an estimate can be made for what needs to be returned. If the player did not return said money to the victim(s), they would be punished for scamming. Reasoning: [how would this benefit our server?] Reason being, if somebody breaks the raid timer or NLR they only get a warning/jail which isnt fair for the players who are printing. The punishment should be fair, and compensate the affected user(s). Additional Information: Just wanted to say I just had this happen with some level 30's who were being toxic, and @Orion8559 took the sit and I never got my 500k back.

+1, this needs to return

Also, +1 from me, without the RPG nerfing.

If they were LTAR bans, it would be impossible to have age-old LTAR bans till the rule has been in affect for awhile, however the way that would be dealt with is only looking at LTAR bans from the past 3 months, doing quarterly appropriations to violators of said rule.

Make it a rule for those level 30 and up. Sure, have it be 3 warnings, a 1 day ban, then a 3 day ban for LTAR, Repeated LTAR, and Repeated LTR x2 (Mass LTAR)

I believe it can be further elaborated that glass still takes a significant amount of props to make an effective glass proof base, even in the smallest building. I remember I had a glass proof base that was like 50+ props with the glass included. By re adding this, you are opening up further ingenuity and creativity in base building, as well as a new meta to the whole RPG usage game. I don't believe its wrong to say we should re-add it, as even if it was implemented partially to what it used to be, it would help new players tackle RPG spammers who don't even damage their party mates while they key crack into your base. However I don't believe nerfing RPG's is a solution, as readding the glass effect already nerfs them enough.

Thats why staff members have discretion to separate the good from the bad, the pretty and the ugly. If that were the case, the staff member would let the person go unpunished and if they were seen ingame again, they would be given advice on how to better handle the situation instead of leaving the game, or just not basing and playing the game differently. Yet again; Discretion. Which are dealt with by HR and Overwatch or whatever the ban appeals department is. There are systems in place to put bad staff in their place. There's always alternatives like paying for dupes or asking a friend to make one for them that are more experienced. Also building isn't hard, I picked up on it quite fast. Its easily teachable and learnable. In adding this rule it would be made clear how to properly issue punishments with this new rule. Also, it would expand the leave timer for LTAR's to something to like 5 minutes instead of the 2 minute timer. Thats more then enough time to get a breather before logging out. Adding onto what I said, we could make LTAR vary in punishment degree from 1 to 3 days based on severity of the situation, the person who logged off with level and playtime as a factor and so on. It might complicate the punishment aspect, but its the only way we could properly be more lenient on some people when its needed.

Yea but the punishment for FailRP and LTAP is not sufficient to deter the act of doing such thing. I'm saying that making a separate more severe rule to be punished for breaking would better deter doing such thing. It would involve something like a 2-3 day ban or something like that. Just slightly above the punishment for FailRP + LTAP. Somebody who has several printer accounts does not care about a 1 day ban whatsoever as they will pick back up the very next day.

Didnt really interact with you much but cya.

fr, fuck clouds bro. they ruin everything.

+1, this is a good suggestion. It should be a separate punishment that's more severe then failrp + ltap as leaving to avoid a raid or to stop your printers from being taken is a lot more of a severe crime then just generic failrp, such as running into spawn to avoid a hit, then leaving the game which is just failrp + ltap.

+1, would go well with the sailor class if thats added.