Anon10011

Ah, so the Sumo is the one to start the battle, well Sir Yokozuna I will heed your call and raise a bong rip for you in aid of this post. When this rule was thought up the raiding addiction I had on the server was intense. I didn't give two shits about whos base it was ( unless friends or my good acquaintances ) I stole everything from everyone on top of that I had went a step forward and fully underwent a little community that I made within the industrial ( warehouses ) area. Whereas I built a gate in front of the tunnel to be our key pads, quick door etc. I hired NEWBIES, my good friend, my good acquaintances, vets to whom I talked to specifically to watch the gate, raid, watch the inside part of the community the gate keypad had ( Gate guards: 1 vet, 1 semi good, 2 newbies ) myself, and the rest whom were with me built inside of the building with no keypads, no quick doors ( other then button entrances within the building to printer rack ) and noting else to heed a raiding team who were to come in and kill, steal, and take over the little community I had created. What I had created took a long time, was great and did a lot of good for new people coming in, people who just wanted to chill with their friends whom I didn't know. They wanted a safe place to chill, or whatever at which was fine with me generally to give everyone a chance to do something ( raiders of the party included ) This was when the party limit was unlimited ( However I still agree with the party limit rule [ maybe have it increased by 1 ] maybe ). The way I had it set up made it so. Sadly, not to everyone, the things I did, my friends, the old school raiders and newbies did were not to the most liking of the "Rule Makers" therefor these type of rules were added on over and over. The SA in charge at the time, the rule making processors, made it so that nothing that could be built outside the bases, toned them done, etc. I made this to enjoy every aspect of what Garnut has brought forth for us and for me and for the new people of this server and also the friends I made here. I couldn't agree more with what the Grand Yokozuna is saying about this rule, when it was made and when the rules of every little basing thing was put into place ( excluding the important ones: ETC Materialized fences, pixi peeks, FULL black out bases [floor included] and so on ) were made to hinder the people who were good at this game, building bases, raiding bases, etc to the fullest extent. Now I'm not saying we should be re thinking everything of or about base building rules limitations etc. Sometimes you have to make it easier for the general public of players whom join the server that aren't good at raiding, basing, or even shooting you have to give heed to everyone evenly which I agree with 100%. Where that line is of how much needs to be restricted on what, who, when, and so on will be solely up the big balls man in charge of this rule operation. I'm just here to help when something serious like this rule needs to be changed I hope this really dose get re-looked at and things can be seen in and different perspective. I give this a +1 in every way possible S-I-R P.S The creator of this post has no soul....=)

Sorry that is not the case. Please stop trying to defend rule breaking. I have the full video of how EVERYTHING went down of you also harassing me with the other 2. I have in the video oxo taking a while to take my sit and me waiting ( which is what you see me going back for ) You can see in the video if you clicked on it that it shows I made the report. Maybe you're watching a different video?

Oh boy if this isn't the first time of trying to get out of something nice try. You know exactly what you got banned for and playing like you don't won't make it any better. Here is the proof needed and hopfully he will learn. This video is evidence that both Gni knight and king - along with others ( I have the full video ) as seen I'm standing minding my own biz not doing much but waiting for these 2 people to leave. as I continue to wait King kills me in the process of.. Nothing really. https://streamable.com/jayhbc I +1 the extended ban to keep please.

With the video: I have watched and understand what I said when I was explaining it to to maple I was trying to remember what happened because ghost was in my base from the start, " that's why I killed all 3 of you " when I'm running around my base and trying to get rid of 2 people that are not supposed to be in my base misfire can happen. Just because I didn't state it by voice I " however I killed ghost by mistake " was not being brought up into the conversation or thought because ghost is my friend " that's the reason I killed all 3 of you from running in my base " when frustrated over something and not knowing about being recorded and also knowning that me killing my friend by mistake I'm not going to bring up that I killed my friend by mistake ( when maple typed in chat " so 3 people?" ) The first thing in my mind was not going to be " oh but I wanted to let you know ghost is my friend". I have let ghost base with me for over 4 days now ( including at my spawn base ) he's going from some random, do my base mate, to my friend, etc I'm clear with what I'm saying that I have had him on steam and allow him to base and farm his printers with me whenever. Party: This is not a shield, this is not a " what if" this is a literal thing that would change the whole course of this situation, this is not something I'm just throwing up in the air. It's the reason for this exact sit and outcome with 3 deaths for MRDM, because this can happen again ( 2 randoms 1 friend) with the random reporting there is nothing protecting that third kill my friend from being killed by mistake. It wouldn't make any sense why it wouldn't come into play. For the reports: as I've seen and been in multipul reports with people breaking mass nlr and rdming me I've never seen a case where someone that reports someone for someone's else's death ( reagurdless of the timer for both deaths ) gets punished for it just like no witnesses you can't report on someone else's behalf and they were not in a party so it wouldn't of have been together, these are 2 separate people making 2 separate reports. As the first sit ended with a turn from rdm to breaking my own NLR. Then another sit for RDM in which I killed maple just because I stated that I killed all 3 during the time that it happened ( 1 being my friend and my base mate but how can you tell with no friendly fire system ) how would make it seem my intention was to mass rdm all 3 people none the less when the times I killed all 3 ghosts was last I didn't realize I did at first when in the video was way after the fact of when it all happened which is why I was trying to remember " when did I killed you oh ..oh ..yeah that's right " it was almost a full minute after the second death. When trying to get someone out of your base ( because there's no party there's. I way to tell ) you shoot first ask question later. Trying to "set " my punishment: No, I am someone who doesn't break rules, I sit and my base for hours and hours not doing nothing but my own thing I don't bother anyone and report an extreme amount of mass NlRing people, mass prop blockers, etc I don't have a warn to my account to date and have been fasly banned twice. I'm not someone who goes around and is well known for breaking the rules, each sit I've seen most reports that it has been all about the staffs opinion on the situation and the person them self, as I stated before this is a very big punishment for something that happened very quickly with me at the end saying " do what you have to do " that having in mind waiting for my warns / jails . Seeing as there was no third sit I wasn't in the mind set of " I'm about to get banned" this is right under perma ban and doesn't make sense seeing a as how I'm not a new person, known person with a record, of staff member with a record. I'm a player who for 1 or 3k hours ( forgot how many I have ) has never been warned stacked, jailed only 3 times in the history of being here, and has fasely been banned twice. I don't do anything other then help keep the server clean and support it the best way I can. If my intent was to break rules all the time or coming back from a history of nasty crap that I've done then I would agree with you're punishment 100% and there would not be 2 pages to this post. However a semi max ban is something I think is unfair with everything that has happened and also the big block of how there is no system for my to ( claim ) which friend of mine is in my base, my friend in general, someone who's with me in my base without having to advert it, clearly state it, or in this case worry about being recorded and not thinking that killing my friend would be the reason for me being banned ( take the third death away and what do you have ) and with the party system that is in place now it still wouldn't have mattered because there is no friendly fire system that flaw caused me to be banned ( and anyone else that has the same situational sit as I had in the same position ) that is the only reason I am bringing the party up. What I said: yes I know I have brought up ghost multipul of times, the reaaon I have explained him in different scenarios and ways is because of his comment ( I'm his friend and didn't care about the kill ) that along shows enough that he has been with me, has been my friend and has based with me more then once, and knows he's welcome to run into my base and come join me / ask me to come into my base. Which at first when he was on the server he did he's been in there and is the reason why he got killed by mistake again I have seen the video and seen the screen shots with the times attached in the logs, if ghost was a random person then I would have understood all of this however ghost has been my friend for some days now and was the reason why he was in my base in the first place. I'm trying to make it clear and so was he in his comments, his person his account his death is the MRDM requirement for a 2 week ban you get rid of his death then thats rdm x2 ( if the first sit had a warn and or jail as the punishment ) and again comes down to the staff making the report, thoughts about the person being reported, and what the staff wants to do in that sit. If the party was actively working then by all means ghost would have been fine. However the thrid person that got killed has stated he was in the knowning ( how can consensual rdm count if there's no party system to outcast that ) and didn't mind it which is why a third report ( most reason for why the MRDM ban goes through not just a 1st .sit with not enough proof to a second sit that has enough proof for 2 week ban ) that is how I've seen reports done and have witnessed reports being done Side note: I will be going to bed soon so I will reply in the morning

The topic, or reason for this has not changed or shifted what so ever. This are all things that need to be considered as this is one of the biggest punishments other then perma ban ( why would I have ace in my base for no reason, as I get upset with anyone bothering during my building and setting up my base, ace was in there for a reason just as he has stated, considering being in a party would totally get rid of 1 of the deaths that still leaves 2 deaths 1 of which as you stated there was no proof of, that being said it would of came down to 1 sit with maple and that would of been the decided factor. Just for maple however seeing as you can't report for other people ( Phil ) The subject has not changed because ace was in the base before Phil and Maple ran in meaning I would have ( if there was ) put him into my party this getting rid of the third death causing the so called "MRDM" down to the RDM on Maple ( again seeing as what you said there was no proof in the first sit, I understand what I said in the video however just because I'm upset with one of my friend ( as you can see I also killed empty furbar which is also my friend ) it wouldn't mean anything of the sort because there is no system in place for me to put my friend in a friendly fire mode. No party is going to end up with people getting frustrated while trying to get things done, however this all because there is no party system In place which is why this wouldn't of happend, there's nothing that happened in the first sit, which means it's null because of no proof as you said meaning that sit for RDM is null, ( also when we were in the first sit you explained to him that I can't NLR my self when I die from killing my self ) so then there leaves the sit with maple ( 1 rdm on him because I had no sign when he was a spartan and ran into my base ) a party system would negate the third and final kill as null which was by mistake on my friend ghost ( which I have proof of in screen shots of him saying he doesn't mind ) not knowing I was being recorded doesn't negate what I said in the sit and what happened in the situation of how this all occured which is why I think it's unfair because getting rid of the third mistaken kill on my friend ( who was in my base and supposed to printer farm along with me ) would of left 1 rdm on Maple

This doesn't make Any sense, I have the proof of when this happen of ghost saying he didn't care of the mistaken RDM, that he knew I didn't mean to, and that he's also my friend. So then it goes back to what I was saying in the begining, how is this fair when there is not a system for me to have my friends ( that want to base with me ) put on friendly fire for me ( or Anyone because this can happen to anyone in general on the server as of current, any person, minger/etc can get away with a report like this because there is no system in place to stop the " rdm/MRDM. Killing friends inside of there own base when the same thing happens ) meaning there's no way for me to not be able to not kill any of my friends in my base by mistake which doesn't seem fair, as what happened when I mistakenly killed ghost. This wouldn't have even happen in the first place. No ban. Just a warn and jail also seeing as how nothing happened in the first sit, it would of have had to been up to the staff taking the sits opinion of the situation that took place to bring the sit to a roof because then it would of been only 2 deaths. There is no system on the server to help that cause. Meaning anyone on the server can report for the same thing and get different punishments then what I received.

If all that had to be done was take screen shots of my base and make a choice then papa could have done so the first time when I was reported, all the rest is in logs. MRDM is intent to kill 3 people the 2 that were in my base when I was trying to get my base going, were the ones I was trying to get out after telling then multipul of times to leave. Which is what I explained to papa and Phil during the first sit

I have made it clear about my sign because I was working on the base for about 20-40minutes in which as I stated was getting ready to printer farm, if ghost had made a report then I would understand for this punishment, it wouldn't make sense seeing as how ghost is my friend. Why didn't I get warned and or jailed for the first sit, ghost knew I killed him by mistake just because 2 other people ( not ment to be in my base ) aside from ghost who was supposed to be in my base can make the report and get me banned? Espically when in the first sit no punishment had happened. The reason I was upset with ghost is because I killed him by mistake trying to get 2 people out of my base while setting it up. There is no more friendly fire so I don't see how this works. If it was the case of MRDM it would of been brought up during the first sit as you saw Phil and I left on a good note when the sit left until mintues later someone else ( who wasn't supposed to be in my base ) made a report and was insteantly accepted as a 2 week ban. This is the same as if a party setting of friend fire was off and you shot your teamate by mistake. It would come down to the opinion of the staff doing the sit, situation that brought the sit there in the first place, and the intent to mass rdm in general ( as I don't remeber even having a warn on currently ) This was all done inside my base, with no punishment other then a 2 week ban as the goto thing.

As I did have no sign up, my intentions were not to Mass RDM, In the video I didn't say Ghost, I was including the 3 NFA people, Jorts, maple, and phil. Ghost is my friend I have no bad intentions with Phil as I never did at the start. I killed Jorts and Maple from a raid they did prior to this incident, Ghost knows I didn't mean to kill him which is what he replied in the comments. I was building my base to ready for a night of printer farming. When I killed Maple and jorts, I didn't have a sign up in which they still both proceeded to raid me I waited until they started to keypad crack my base in return I killed them. I tried to explain that ghost didn't care but was waiting to see how papa would handle this situation. Seeing as how Ghost was never involved nor was there a third sit from ghost to be involved.

In-game name: General KnoxxSteamID (https://steamid.io/): STEAM_0:1:40997652Staff members in-game name: Papa krabbeStaff members SteamID (https://garnetgaming.net/darkrp/bans) (/id (name):STEAM_0:0:153848304Date & Time of incident:11/15/2020Timezone:ESTBan Reason: MRDMHow long were you banned for?: 2 weeksWhat happened? (include any proof): I killed NFA Phil and NFA Maple inside my base, My friend ACE was in the base also that I killed and only got reported twice. Ace's death wasn't RDM ace never made a report on me. Why should your ban be removed?: Because this is the first time I've been banned. This should of been a warn x2 and or warn / jail x2 instead it was a sit with NFA Phil ( no punishment was done) and then a second report with NFA Maple ( which I was got banned for 2 weeks) I have the screen shots of Ghost saying I didn't RDM <<<<< him. Side note( When in the first sit with Phil I was trying to explain to him, when him and Maple ran into my base that I was getting ready to set up printers) the sit with Phil ended and we went on with our nights.

+1 On this post. Too much has gone without reprimand

I didn't refresh my screen to see proggys choice. I posted it then refreshed it.