Georgeologist 32 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 In-game name: Tuco Salamander(at the time)SteamID (https://steamid.io/):76561198120725760Staff members in-game name: Raggy FubarStaff members SteamID (https://garnetgaming.net/darkrp/bans) (/id (name): 76561198331399330 https://steamcommunity.com/id/maurifdez/Date & Time of incident:04/27/2022 approx 1700 CDTTimezone: CentralBan Reason: NITRP | Raggy How long were you banned for?: 4 daysProof of Ban: https://imgur.com/EAj3txLWhat happened? (include any proof): This is what i did wrong, I scammed him by taking the money and not giving him my printers, then i raided as a wrong class and during the raid i blew up his printer https://youtu.be/8M14io-ol_kWhy should your ban be removed?: Ironfetus reported me the first time and used this video, above, as evidence. I was warned 2x for fail RP (scamming, raiding as wrong class) and served my jail sentence, I wasn't able to screenshot that as I would be banned before I knew i needed that information, but it should be visible to an admin. Raggy Fubar marked the sit as resolved. Ironfetus reported me a second time and the same admin took the sit. Raggy Fubar now is saying that because I went into his base, then committed my fail RP x2, that it is NITRP. Raggy Fubar claims to have been told by a Manager that regardless of my previous punishment, I should be punished for it again in addition to "going into his base to fail rp". I have already been punished for fail RP x2, why am I being punished for it again after the sit was resolved and the punishment completed. It is my understanding that once you've been warned for something, you may not be punished for it again. I should be unbanned because I was banned for something I was already warned for in addition to the new charge. Per the [DarkRP] Server Rules, I only broke 2 rules: "You may not scam players (Promising something to someone and not following through)." and "Dealers - Import/Export, You may not perform illegal activities*, I.E: raids, mugging, etc. With the exception of owning printer(s)". I was already warned for breaking these two rules. If there are more rules, why aren't they posted on the forums? 1 1 1 Link to comment
Compa 24 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 scamming (FailRPx1), raiding as a wrong class (FailRPx2), blowing up the printer without adverting steal (FailRPx3, even if you adverted steal it is still failRP) Hope this helps you to understand the situation. 1 2 Link to comment
Georgeologist 32 Posted April 28, 2022 Topic Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 "If you want to steal/destroy raided printers in transport you must first advert "steal" or "counter" " per the rules https://garnetgaming.net/forums/index.php?/topic/19909-darkrp-server-rules/ the printer was not in transport, the video clearly shows that during the raid, i blew up the printer without moving them with the gravity gun. The printer remained inside of his base. It is very common for the raiders to blow up any printers in the base being raided. I was not stealing the printer, simply destroying in in raid. Link to comment
Raggy 13 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Below you will find the video of you committing the offenses that you committed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M14io-ol_k 1) Scamming 2)Raiding As the Wrong Class 3)Blew up the printer You were not punished for failrp x2 but rather for just Failrp, and the appropriate punishment for that is a warning and or a 2-4 minute jail time which I do admit that I gave you. Also, the sit wasn't resolved by me it was an automatic timer that made it resolve because it took a while for the clip to upload, but again I did deal out punishment. Though I was told right after that the offensive you committed would result in NITRP by the reporter so I decided to take it to the discord and ask a higher up on how to exactly handle the situation and I was told to go on ahead with the NITRP if I had satisfactory evidence which would be the video above. Below you can find screenshots of me asking higher-ups about how to handle the situation. Also, I am very new to being a mod so I am bound to make mistakes at the start like giving out the wrong punishment like your jail. https://imgur.com/a/3NygZT4 https://imgur.com/a/NxmLOb4 1 Link to comment
DiegoZavier 612 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 @Raggy Did you offer him a chance to rectify the scamming? (aka return the money). Link to comment
Raggy 13 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Yes I did, I asked him to return the money or give him the printers ( don't have a clip) 1 1 Link to comment
DiegoZavier 612 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 @Actavis_Medicine Did he ask you? and did you return the money or give him the printers? 1 Link to comment
Georgeologist 32 Posted April 28, 2022 Topic Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 He [Raggy] did not ask me to return the money or give him [Ironfetus] my printers. I have the entire second interaction recorded. Maybe Ironfetus has the first one, but i didn't save that one. 1 Link to comment
Raggy 13 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I told him that if he gives the money or printers back I won't do anything else unless I'm making things up in my head 1 Link to comment
DiegoZavier 612 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 @RaggyCan you check your recordings to see if you can find it? (maybe ask ironfetus also) 1 Link to comment
Iron_Fetus33 5 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I even stated that I didn't want him banned if he gave me my money back. Didn't even ask for compensation for the printer he destroyed. Just wanted my 100k back. He declined. 1 Link to comment
Raggy 13 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Ill check soon im studying for a test rn update: I don't but im 90% sure i did can u send the whole interaction by any chance Edited April 28, 2022 by Raggy 1 Link to comment
Georgeologist 32 Posted April 28, 2022 Topic Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 Pardon the snacking while talking in this video and forgive my attempt to impugn his narrative. 1 Link to comment
Raggy 13 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) It was in the original sit i'm pretty sure the clip that I have cuts short of the first sit Edited April 28, 2022 by Raggy Link to comment
Iron_Fetus33 5 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Looked back at my clips and I didn't catch that part either. But either way he still broke the rules he broke and I never got my money back or my printers that he promised. Link to comment
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