sunnymuffins Report

[Nurfy 4]

Who are you reporting? [Staff/Player]: sunnymuffins
Your in-game name: Nurfy
Your SteamID (https://steamid.io/): STEAM_0:1:62020744
In-game name of reportee: sunnymuffins
SteamID of reportee (https://steamid.io/): STEAM_0:1:116434005
Date & Time of incident: 07/07/2024 15:30PM 
Timezone: PDT
What happened? (include any proof): https://imgur.com/TGVPvBQ

     NuT BBC Coopa was arrested and looking to pay money to be unarrested. I told NuT BBC Coopa to give me 3 million RPCash for me to bail him out of prison. Being the sly meth manufacturing criminal that he is, he gave me 250k RPCash. Because this wasn't the correct amount of money, I killed him to send him back to his jail cell. I was then reported for scamming him. While personally I don't know how this constitutes as scamming in any way (writing 250000 and 3000000 are very different), I do know that a ban for in-game scamming is not listed in the D3A or any of the Server Rules. 

     The argument on whether or not I am required to pay back money to someone who has paid me on accident I'm not too worried about. However, I was threatened with a 4-day ban. On the D3A the only 4-day ban listed is for NITRP. Whether or not scamming is NITRP, I did have an RP reason for not wanting to give the money back. I had just arrested him for illegal money printers, and meth manufacturing. I saw any money confiscated from this player as drug money off the street, which is why I was willing to unarrest him for the price of 3 million RPCash in the first place. I am ultimately making this report to clarify the rules for myself and other players who might be confused because, as far as I'm informed only scamming for IRL Money would constitute a ban. 

Edited July 7 by Nurfy
Fatfingered submit

[Chawhead 170]

 

UNDER REVIEW
Thank you for your appeal. Please allow up to 24-48 hours for a response from a member of the Operator Division. As well as allowing a reasonable timeframe to gather the facts pertaining to your ban.

Please note, bans will only be appealed if they are of a false nature, incorrect reasoning, and in some cases mishandling of sit/report/ban. 

[Chawhead 170]

@sunnymuffins

[sunnymuffins 9]

 Hello Nurfy, thanks for making a report to see what the punishment is for scamming when it comes to in game money, I've asked a couple Admins and they don't even know so we will see I guess. You were given money for bail and you decided to keep the money and NOT bail Coopa because it wasn't the correct outrageous amount, you said he basically "donated" it at that point which I don't believe anyone else would agree with. You mention having an RP reason for not wanting to give the money back but in these screenshots the reason was, "I want it" and "I like how it is now, closer to 8figs." 8figs meaning you were closer to $10,000,000. When I asked you, "you are set on not giving him his money back, right?" your response was "what is the punishment" so if it was a light punishment would you gladly keep the money that you shouldn't have in the first place? When it comes to me telling you it would be a four day ban I didn't know what the punishment is for scamming, (although I'm almost positive it's something taken more seriously than FailRP) but I did immediately attempt to contact Gaming Carrot before this report was made in an attempt to get some clarification for myself and I assure you if you were banned I would have corrected your punishment based on his feedback. In the end it all worked out though, you did give Coopa the money back after a somewhat painful sit, you weren't punished at all, and now we get to laugh at my mistake as a Moderator. FailRP because you were requesting a bail amount way too high, FailRP again because you were a Spartan demanding bail money, and I believe scamming would be a separate category of rule breaking but for NITRP there needs to be three. So unless scamming by itself would be four days then that was an incorrect move on my part, I fired from the hip and we will see what happens.

Chat logs- https://imgur.com/a/r20I0kX

Asking if he is set on not giving money back- https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/idRv0LnIuTa9KNf33/d1337vwhAsPi?invite=cr-MSx0OHUsMTU0MzM5MTc3LA

 

[busterbignut 117]

DENIED
After careful review of your report and the events pertaining/involved, as well as deliberation with the Operator Division: We have decided that your report has been denied at this time. This is mostly but may not be limited to the following reasons:

Only reason this is denied is because sunny will not be getting punished for his handling of the situation.
You are correct that there are currently no punishments on the D3A directly relating to scamming for rp money, however, you did do this as a member of the police.
Considering that in rp the only classes able to pocket bail money is the warden or mayor, you should have returned the money when it was not sufficient as bail and especially so when it was reported and requested/ordered by sunny. Even if you were warden or mayor, you still should have returned the money for rp.  Setting aside what you did being a degenerate, scumbag move, especially from someone with your experience on the server, I will be issuing you a warn for the failrp.

Thank you for your report, as well as the effort you have put into your report.