staff/player report

[diddles 1]

Who are you reporting? [Staff/Player]: Lotus Fubar, Calvin
Your in-game name: Diddles
Your SteamID (https://steamid.io/): STEAM_0:1:565475075
In-game name of reportee:  Lotus Fubar and Calvin 
SteamID of reportee (https://steamid.io/): STEAM_0:0:77754776 and STEAM_0:0:211893787
Date & Time of incident: 9/18/2020; 5:09 
Timezone: CST
What happened? (include any proof): I raided this base of knoxx and after i threw my second grenade, the player named of calvin came and killed me in the tunnels to sewer. So I respawned and then I went into knoxx base because i didn't die in there and calvin killed me again. The first time he killed me, I checked to see if he was party up with them and he was not. The second time he killed me I checked and he still wasn't. I reported both times and finally a staff took it. Lotus then proceeds to bring me to a sit and both are quiet, no talking or typing until i said something. Unfortunately my recording stooped at the second time of the rdm and  during the sit but have a recording after lotus returned me. During the sit lotus proceeded to tell me Calvin was allowed to kill me during the raid because he was "basing" there, even though he was not in a party with the base owner. The second time he killed me, he was still not in the party. Both calvin and Lotus said Calvin was allowed to kill me because he was " basing" and not in a party. The rules say they must be in a party together to defend the base. Calvin did not advert counter the first rdm. Both members as staff proceeded to go around the rules and not abide by them, probably because they are friends.   If this is how staff members proceed with reports on other staff members than i do not want to be apart of this community. I have multiple recordings already that staff have been giving verbal warnings toward people that they are friends with and I have only been on here for 18:06:23. Even after multiple reports on the same person they keep giving them "verbal warnings"

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[DiegoZavier 612]

@diddles Do you have more videos supporting your claims? 

[diddles 1]

Just now, DiegoZavier said:

@diddles Do you have more videos supporting your claims? 

Videos of what?

[Theta2 418]

I didn't see him advert counter so my only question is, was Calvin injured? Otherwise I see no reason that Calvin should have killed you but your side? @Lotus

[ShadowKing 138]

10 minutes ago, Theta2 said:

I didn't see him advert counter so my only question is, was Calvin injured? Otherwise I see no reason that Calvin should have killed you but your side? @Lotus

I was defending the base I was a part of in which he was raiding.

[Lotus 38]

He never sent me the video, so I felt I didn't have enough evidence to do anything about the situation. If everything happened the way he said it did and he had showed me the videos at that time, then it would have been different. It would have been worse for me to have jailed or warned Calvin if he didn't deserve it. 

Edited September 18, 2020 by Lotus

[diddles 1]

7 hours ago, Lotus said:

He never sent me the video, so I felt I didn't have enough evidence to do anything about the situation. If everything happened the way he said it did and he had showed me the videos at that time, then it would have been different. It would have been worse for me to have jailed or warned Calvin if he didn't deserve it. 

You never asked for a video,the whole sit was hush hush and i was saying most, trying to get answers. Also i reported him, he should of had provided the video. You can tell by logs, that I didn't damage him, he didn't advert, or that he wasn't in a party.  No reason you needed a video. You didn't look at logs and was all hush hush because calvin and you were talking in some other form of communications. May i mention You were also in that base defending and were in the party, so i see why you didn't punish your friend the rdmer.

8 hours ago, Theta2 said:

I didn't see him advert counter so my only question is, was Calvin injured? Otherwise I see no reason that Calvin should have killed you but your side? @Lotus

You can tell by the video, he wasn't near the base the first time i threw the grenade and wasn't close enough to be injured on the second time.

8 hours ago, Lotus said:

He never sent me the video, so I felt I didn't have enough evidence to do anything about the situation. If everything happened the way he said it did and he had showed me the videos at that time, then it would have been different. It would have been worse for me to have jailed or warned Calvin if he didn't deserve it. 

Also I reported Him two times for rdming back to back, and he still wasn't in the party, and you still did nothing about it.

[Ateyofries 10]

Diddles, Diego literally asked "Do you have more videos supporting your claims?"  and as calvin said he was basing with knoxx and I can vouch for this as Calvin and Knoxx seem like pretty good friend in my opinion.

and when breaking NLR you are allowed to kill the person again (if memory serves me right)

[diddles 1]

10 minutes ago, Ateyofries said:

Diddles, Diego literally asked "Do you have more videos supporting your claims?"  and as calvin said he was basing with knoxx and I can vouch for this as Calvin and Knoxx seem like pretty good friend in my opinion.

and when breaking NLR you are allowed to kill the person again (if memory serves me right)

Idk why you are replying you aren't apart of this. and i didn't nlr. I died in the tunnels, so it isn't nlr. If he was basing with knoxx he should of been in the party and he clearly wasn't, He is staff too so he should follow the rules he enforces

[grace 291]

13 minutes ago, Ateyofries said:

Diddles, Diego literally asked "Do you have more videos supporting your claims?"  and as calvin said he was basing with knoxx and I can vouch for this as Calvin and Knoxx seem like pretty good friend in my opinion.

and when breaking NLR you are allowed to kill the person again (if memory serves me right)

I want you to know, you vouching for someone/something means absolutely nothing in this situation. 

8 hours ago, Calvin said:

I was defending the base I was a part of in which he was raiding.

You weren't in the party(Shown in the clip), so you have no right to be defending his KOS sign/defending him from a raid without calling counter.

Also you saying you didn't NLR is untrue Diddle. You continued to raid the same base upon dying in the same life, therefore it is NLR.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Kroms
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[Ateyofries 10]

Just now, Kroms said:

I want you to know, you vouching for someone/something means absolutely nothing in this situation. 

You weren't in the party(Shown in the clip), so you have no right to be defending his KOS sign/defending him from a raid without calling counter.

 

I didn't say I can vouch for it to mean something I am just saying

 

[diddles 1]

10 minutes ago, Kroms said:

I want you to know, you vouching for someone/something means absolutely nothing in this situation. 

You weren't in the party(Shown in the clip), so you have no right to be defending his KOS sign/defending him from a raid without calling counter.

Also you saying you didn't NLR is untrue Diddle. You continued to raid the same base upon dying in the same life, therefore it is NLR.

I didn't continue to raid, I just walked in there, I wasn't attacking no one, or even try to keypad crack. Also this video is the first rdm report. Some reason my recording shutoff right after this, so I don't have anything after that until I notice it was off at the end of the sit.

Edited September 18, 2020 by diddles

[BeMinxX 142]

My understanding of defending a base is is if you ARE NOT IN THE PARTY YOU CANT DEFEND. Its pretty plain and simple. Im not for or against this report i just see alot of people saying " yeah well i was basing there " that doesnt really mean anything, i can say i was basing where ever the hell i want to be but that doesnt mean i can defend the base. If you arent in the party you arent in the base and you can and will be reported as such. Thats my two cents.

[Lotus 38]

@diddles I literally did ask for the video. You said as soon as we got into the sit that you had videos, and I said "okay send them". Then we literally sat there for like 3 minutes, and you started typing in chat a bunch of question marks and then asked to be returned right after. You said you wanted to be returned because you were going to make a report on the forums on us. 

To an extent I feel like you've just made up a lot of assumptions. I'm not saying you haven't had bad experiences with other staff members. I took that sit to help you. I wanted to make sure you weren't RDMed, and that's the only reason I took the report. I don't really understand how it turned into a report on the forums. 

I didn't understand the whole situation and I did check logs, but I was AFK when the reports were made. By the time we had that sit I couldn't even see some of the logs. Since I didn't understand the situation that's why no punishment was given. Things are different now that I've seen the video. If I just would have seen the videos that you posted on here when it was happening. then I would have been more than positive before taking action.

In no way was I biased towards either you or Calvin.  I just want you to understand that. You don't have to forgive me, but I feel it's kind of rude to make allegations about  me when all I wanted to try to do is help you out. I just don't think it's very cool.

Edited September 19, 2020 by Lotus

[diddles 1]

32 minutes ago, Lotus said:

@diddles I literally did ask for the video. You said as soon as we got into the sit that you had videos, and I said "okay send them". Then we literally sat there for like 3 minutes, and you started typing in chat a bunch of question marks and then asked to be returned right after. You said you wanted to be returned because you were going to make a report on the forums on us. 

To an extent I feel like you've just made up a lot of assumptions. I'm not saying you haven't had bad experiences with other staff members. I took that sit to help you. I wanted to make sure you weren't RDMed, and that's the only reason I took the report. I don't really understand how it turned into a report on the forums. 

I didn't understand the whole situation and I did check logs, but I was AFK when the reports were made. By the time we had that sit I couldn't even see some of the logs. Since I didn't understand the situation that's why no punishment was given. Things are different now that I've seen the video. If I just would have seen the videos that you posted on here when it was happening. then I would have been more than positive before taking action.

In no way was I biased towards either you or Calvin.  I just want you to understand that. You don't have to forgive me, but I feel it's kind of rude to make allegations about  me when all I wanted to try to do is help you out. I just don't think it's very cool.

You or calvin never said one thing until i started sending a bunch of questions marks. And still you said " he was basing there so he is allowed to do it." Not one thing was said about a video. also like I said I reported him, so why should have a video when he should  be the one who should have proof of himself not rdming. Like i said before, he even said he killed me because he was BASING THERE, not because I damaged him, but because he was BASING THERE! He was not in a party so what other proof did you need because he told you why he shot me.  The rules say you must be in a party to defend someone's base. Also you said logs were reset? There was what maybe 30 people on and no one was dying, so tell me how logs reset in an about 7 min time frame for when the first report was sent? Yes I told you to send me back after you said and i quote "sorry bro, but he's not in the wrong.Im going to go ahead and return you.I was reporting you both because you didn't issue any punishment for his rdm, he is staff so he should follow the rules, and you shouldn't be biased. Your sit handling was so vague, and biased, and that is why I have brought it to the forums. The Sit was not even 3 min so what do you mean we was sitting there for 3 min, you already had your answer before you even tp us up there.

 

Also as I said before, you were in the party knoxx had but Calvin wasn't and you knew he wasn't.

Edited September 19, 2020 by diddles