PIague 60 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Trusted Member System Description Only specific people have access to this role by strict distribution. - Strictly assigned through applying for this role with specified requirements e.g. (Review of reputation/Past disciplinary actions, Interview with high ranking members of staff who have authority to grant said role, Members of staff could vote for applying members role, Playtime on server may come into account of a decision.) Examples of perk use in RP. - Hydraulic use could be put towards levitating platforms or a launching hobo build, Buoyancy could be put to use for boat crafts or floating bridges, Wheels and ball sockets could be used for transport like a bus if someone wanted to rp as a bus driver, Ropes can be used for hanging props up for decoration or a parkour event. Reasons Benefits for the server. - Higher motivation for building as a whole, more elaborate building techniques, extended freedom in regards to roleplay (Which would boost player base morale). Benefits of the trusted member role would be privileges to access previously blocked tools. - Garnets Darkrp has always had a bland building experience with limited permissions due to the lack of trust of its players base but has never considered a trusted member role with permissions to use disabled tools e.g. (Hydraulics, Wheels, Ropes, Buoyancy, Ability to unfreeze props etc). Additional Information In conclusion, the addition of the trusted member system would benefit both the server and the players that are granted the role by expanding roleplay options in the server ranging anywhere from new gambling techniques, extended roleplay for hobos, participation in events designing parkour, Roulette, Challenges, Deathmatch and possibly stages for talent shows incase game masters aren't confident in building. With these extended permissions, server events could easily be more exciting by introducing new ideas/designs from the trusted members. Regards Plague 3 Link to comment
DarkRP Administration Team hooboododoMartian 334 Posted January 30 DarkRP Administration Team Share Posted January 30 (edited) +10000000000000000000000000000 This would really breathe a breath of fresh air into building and rp. I feel like so many tools and props have been restricted due to exploits that minges thrive on, with a trusted member system we could allow for so much more creativity in RP, gamemasters events, basing, and building in general. If this were to be implemented I think there should be strict PERM BAN rules in place. As long as trusted members are vetted properly I see this only benefitting the community. Edited January 30 by hooboododoMartian 1 Link to comment
Fat Good BOI 205 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 +1 this is great ily plague 1 Link to comment
raqi 734 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Like the idea don't get me wrong, but doesn't this pose the issue of players crashing the server? Even if it's accidental, that's still a hit on the live player count and a player has to get perma'd for it. If you can think of a solution, I'll plus 1 but for rn neutral since I really do think a system like this would be nice to have. 1 2 Link to comment
DarkRP Administration Team Danny_The_Dog 152 Posted January 30 DarkRP Administration Team Share Posted January 30 +1 1 Link to comment
FireHazard 17 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 +1 this guy hits me and runs into the sewers every time. And yknow the idea is great too I guess. (Seriously good idea!) 1 Link to comment
Community Director AlexConway 1,147 Posted January 30 Community Director Share Posted January 30 (edited) I think some people have forgotten, the restriction of almost all of the tools listed is not for a lack of trust, but a server stability choice. If you’d like this change to happen, it comes with a guarantee that there will be more crashes. Are you really willing to have your progress gone in a blink of an eye due to a vphysics crash because someone did something wonky with hydraulics or unfroze a prop and it got stuck in the map? As for the whole trusted part of this: Tenured players still abuse things, we have long term players get banned frequently, and even staff members removed for abuse on occasion. Edited January 30 by AlexConway 3 1 3 Link to comment
tadtad31 83 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 +1 i mean its funny but I feel like it would be abused by people even if trusted and if not abused some people would crash the server with it but if there were a way to stop the crashes then i could see it working 1 Link to comment
Monkey_withagun 187 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 +1 shuddup conway. I know this'll probably remove my trusted role (i love mass rdm) but cool 1 Link to comment
Fat Good BOI 205 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, Monkey_withagun said: +1 shuddup conway. I know this'll probably remove my trusted role (i love mass rdm) but cool bro mis clicked Link to comment
Monkey_withagun 187 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Fatgood said: bro mis clicked TRUE Link to comment
PIague 60 Posted January 31 Topic Author Share Posted January 31 (edited) @AlexConwayit would take a lot to crash the server on purpose with props, even with these tools and unfreezing them you'd be able to catch them out with prop logs or extended tool logs if you were to implement this, and from my experience staff and long term members get banned/abuse for lack of things to do on the server or dramatized situations amongst the staff team. There is literally 3 things to invest in that are minorly entertaining, the casino, the unbox system and printers. casino is literally just /roll gambling with extra steps, unbox was nerfed over the years at its current state, its more beginner sided than long term sided due to everyone's point of view of explosives, printers just make money at a boring rate and now with what have heard about the consideration of capping alts to having only 2 allowed on unbox will never be touched again with its current prices for special crates. GG did remove them for a lack of trust why else would they be disabled for player use its not like they idle causing frame drops in the tool gun menu. everyone lost the privilege of having cameras, chairs and easy weld constraints due to trust breaking actions of GG members ruining it for other people, the purpose of suggesting this is to give people a second chance and additional things to do on the server. if this system was implemented its obvious that crashes will occur but not at a stupid constant rate if you choose your trusted members correctly and staff members monitor their building/dupes, i could argue that the community director before you proggy had a trusted member TheDudeAbides, he had moderator permissions without having a sit quota or applying on the forums, purely just to keep trouble away from late night hours when people would grind, he didn't crash the server or have any damaging history with his privilege of having permissions. there is no difference with this system except you don't get access to permissions to cause proper damage (spam banning/warning/jailing/freezing/muting), just fun tools to use for building Hobo/DJ structures that cause no damage if in the right hands. Also it doesn't "make the server less vanilla" its just whitelisting tools for a certain rank basically the same thing for staff with commands. 𝐞𝐗𝐠 𝐏𝐥𝐚𝐠𝐮𝐞 𝐄𝐱-𝐒𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐫 𝐌𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐨𝐫 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏-𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟐 " I'm You " Edited January 31 by PIague Fixes Link to comment
Community Director AlexConway 1,147 Posted January 31 Community Director Share Posted January 31 (edited) 3 hours ago, PIague said: i could argue that the community director before you proggy had a trusted member TheDudeAbides, he had moderator permissions without having a sit quota or applying on the forums, purely just to keep trouble away from late night hours when people would grind, he didn't crash the server or have any damaging history with his privilege of having permissions. You mention one singular person, vs a competitive system of people who would actively pursue this. People are going to be upset, either because they didn’t get selected, they feel it’s unfair, or because someone they don’t like got picked for it. 3 hours ago, PIague said: it would take a lot to crash the server on purpose with props This is very wrong on numerous levels. It could take as little as 2 props, intentionally or unintentionally. I’m not disagreeing that there should be more things to work towards, but I also think there are way more systems geared towards veteran/long term players, and way less towards new players (who are more crucial in growing the community). Edited January 31 by AlexConway 2 Link to comment
Lex_ 506 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Having trouble quoting on mobile but... Constraints are useful creative tools, but they are not very stable, especially when you get into higher entity counts as you would with a large player limit server. There are just too many ways that someone could abuse these additional tools in addition to the instability, many of which would be best solved by not allowing them at all (rather than making a rule against it, as I'm sure the people using them in that way don't care) Link to comment
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