Popular Post Bendak 183 Posted March 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Who are you reporting? [Staff/Player]: Kendal/Milton, Alexander ConwayYour in-game name: 75R RRC COL ArthurYour SteamID (https://steamid.io/): STEAM_0:0:95273474In-game name of reportee: NSCW ST8 ENS Arctic, DEVGRU CAPT PacificSteamID of reportee (https://steamid.io/): STEAM_0:0:50072294, STEAM_0:0:138807332Date & Time of incident: The past week for the 1st incedent; the past 2 months-ish for the 2ndTimezone:ESTWhat happened? (include any proof): Bear with me, because this report will take some time to flesh out. Over the course of the past few months, Kendal has shown that he is not ready for the role of Manager. Not only that, he has also shown that he is okay with bending rules/norms if it positively benefits him. You will see these in the points I make in the post. First to deal with is the Mass Promotion of himself in SEALS. Now before I go on, I am aware that there aren't any actual rules listed in the MOTD on enlisted promotions. However, there was still mass promo nonetheless. Below, screenshots will be posted to show this. When Kendal got into the faction, he went up to ENS over the course of 4 days. Four fucking days. Let's also mention that when you get in the faction, it is listed that SO3 (the rank they start at) is supposed to be a probationary period of 3 days. The probationary period was skipped completely, then promoted every day all the way to SOCS in 4 days. In the same day that he got SOCS, he was promoted up to ENS, skipping SOCM (This is also applicable to Draco/Superior/Southern). Even if cooldowns were only one day per enlisted rank, one rank was skipped and the one day cooldown was not even met. This is Mass Promotion nonetheless. This is just loopholing to get people up to an officer rank. To make this even more interesting, Kendal then goes and makes a post about the good and bad qualities of being an officer, listing mass promotion as one of the negatives. The fact that he publicly states that mass promotion is bad and should not be a thing, and lets it happens to himself, shows bias. None of the other SEALs in the faction followed this promotion scheme and were not promoted with them, which just cements the fact that Conway and Kendal were biased in this situation. Again, the fact that 2 members of staff (One who has been a part of the community for years, and one who is a Manager who should know better) are okay with this as long as it benefits them and nobody else, is bias to a retarded degree. This is dangerous if left unchecked since they want to keep mass promotion as a negative precedent, but it is okay for them to get away with it. The Following is Directed at Kendal Only Now the next part is going to be a very touchy subject. The banning of Alex Pip. A lot of what I say here will be stuff that does not confirm his innocence completely, but will show the reasoning of why I pursued this situation and kept my interest in it (which will show Kendal's lack of care for the situation to get it resolved, and to show that Kendal had no evidence to begin with if you use common sense). Alex Pip was banned for cheating, then he made an appeal which was quickly denied. No evidence was provided, with reason being that they cannot show their new "method" so hackers cannot get around it. After the ban, and after the appeal was denied, Alex Pip still talked to me saying that he was not cheating and that he wants to dive into this further. So I did. There were many attempts to try to talk to Kendal to try to get the situation resolved, but Kendal either ignored or denied any chance to do so. It is also important to mention the other staff's role in this, as far as what both the rest of the executives and what Kendal has told me. When Alex Pip was banned, the only one to see the evidence for the ban was Kendal. Kendal was the one who collected the evidence and the one who banned. Kendal did not confer with the rest of the staff when banning him. While Kendal doesn't exactly need to do that, it does bring up questions about the ban itself. Kendal has also stated that all the executive staff have the access to use this new "method" to ban cheaters, but he was the only one using it. After talking with @AwesomeAidan however, he told me he is still unaware of the method that is used to catch the "cheaters". This brings up even more questions about Kendal's motive. Alex got to talk with Garnet later down the line, and needed Kendal to send Garnet the evidence. When Alex asked Kendal to send Garnet the evidence, Kendal said he was waiting for Garnet to ask him, taking a procrastinate route for the situation. The fact that Kendal hesitated at all instead of being proactive brings even more questions about the validity of the ban verdict. Garnet got involved and asked Kendal to present the evidence himself. Kendal has stalled for days, and has been active on the server and on the forums, so there is no argument that he is unaware of the situation. Kendal's continuous stalling over the course of around a month with multiple discrepancies on the situation between himself and his own executives, shows that Kendal has malicious intent on the situation and has no intent to cooperate. Finally today, Alex Pip is unbanned, with Kendal's excuse being that the evidence was corrupted. This is obviously an easy out excuse to attempt to get away from any discipline against him. And even if the evidence was actually corrupted, why was this not acted upon sooner to help prevent this situation? With all of this being said, I move to say that this ban was false from the start, and that the bans without showing evidence had no evidence at all. I am aware that pencil came out and said that he was cheating, so in no way am I advocating for him to get unbanned as well. I am not advocating on behave of actual hackers. However, I am putting it out there that Kendal is not capable of following the necessary processes needed for these situations. Let us also not forget Silo's ban. Silo was banned off of a single clip, which was supposed to prove walls. Later during Silo's ban appeal, Kendal himself disproved his own evidence. This just goes to show even further that Kendal is too twitchy on the ban trigger without having proper evidence to convict anyone (who wasn't/isn't even hacking). Overall, this post is to bring up that Kendal is not fit for the role of Manager on the server, and shows great bias for himself and his acquaintances. With that said, it can show that this bias has been in other situations, such as the banning of players. Letting this go unchecked sets a dangerous precedent of the server and for the staff team. Kendal is not ready for the position and needs to be reprimanded for what he has let slide, and what he has done himself. Below is the proof of the rank promotions and the mass promotions of said ranks/players in question. Kendals names throughout the docs were Kendal, Baltic, Everglades, and Arctic. Edited March 4, 2020 by Bendak Grammar 1 1 6 1 1 2 2 5 5 Link to comment
Bendak 183 Posted March 4, 2020 Topic Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jackal said: it is way more likely that they did a promo once per day except if they did then there would be logs of him being at SOCM, which he wasnt. Then in the same day he got to SOCS he goes to ENS. That's mass promotion. 13 minutes ago, Jackal said: in the case of Alex Pip I would have as well given the dude's past track record and being a known cheater for the past year+ What track record? If he's a known cheater then there's gotta be evidence for it. 13 minutes ago, Jackal said: is unfortunate that the dude is unbanned since I know the dude is guilty but still what can you do. You can post evidence. That's what you can do. If you know the dude is guilty 100%, then that means you have seen or have evidence yourself. So let's see it. 13 minutes ago, Jackal said: I would think it is safe to say that you probably don't have the best judgement or rather maybe be the least bit trustworthy in situations like this. That is not relevant to this situation at all. None of this has to do with me. I don't know what you are trying to gain from this. Edited March 4, 2020 by Bendak 1 2 6 Link to comment
Community Director AlexConway 1,168 Posted March 4, 2020 Community Director Share Posted March 4, 2020 I will only comment on my side of the report. You make effortless claims about cooldowns and MassPromotions which you as a veteran of this server know, there is no administration impositions on Enlisted Cooldowns, as there are to Warrant Officer and Officer. Just because I fail to update the roster in time with the days the promotions are issued does not mean that they were done at that exact time. It's no secret I am in TeamSpeak/Discord both when I am at US Naval Reserve Base Duty and my IRL 9-5 job. Google Docs/Sheets on a phone are well. Shit. 48 minutes ago, Bendak said: The probationary period was skipped completely, then promoted every day all the way to SOCS in 4 days. Which you can see was completely removed the next day anyway. Not sure how this is relevant. 50 minutes ago, Bendak said: In the same day that he got SOCS, he was promoted up to ENS, skipping SOCM Regardless if I wanted a former COL as an O-1 or not, by not restricting myself to set guidelines of cooldowns, there is nothing to say I can't do hour to hour cooldowns. SOCM is a rank not in place and is a rank similar to SMMC and SMA, this was allowed by Management PRIOR to Kendal even leaving GB, so again not relevant. Day 1 @ 10:17 PM. Day 3 @ 6:18 PM Day 4 @ 4:48 PM Day 5 @ 1:00 PM Day 6 @ 4:26 PM Day 6 @ 8:17 57 minutes ago, Bendak said: over the course of 4 days. Four fucking days. *6 - Six Day 57 minutes ago, Bendak said: First to deal with is the Mass Promotion of himself in SEALS. SOCS is my version of Officer Cadet, as the navy does not use it, and SOCM is for SMA use, they had to do all of their Specializations before being promoted past SOCS, which included leading a tryout and they fufilled them - again, not NEEDED to wait ANY amount of time, even a day or 24 hours or whatever, I appointed them. [http://prntscr.com/rb6spn] 57 minutes ago, Bendak said: Now before I go on, I am aware that there aren't any actual rules listed in the MOTD on enlisted promotions. 57 minutes ago, Bendak said: However, there was still mass promo nonetheless. Mass Promotion? No. Simply put, if I want to do an hour cooldown or a day, I can. Simply put. There is no rule against it, but you said that already, so I'm unclear why you posted it, knowing it's not against the rules. I agree I'm not the best leader, but hey at least I'm active. 5 minutes ago, Bendak said: except if they did then there would be logs of him being at SOCM, which he wasnt. Then in the same day he got to SOCS he goes to ENS. That's mass promotion. Refer to my comment about SOCM TD;LR - No it's not mass promotion, as there are NO rules or guidelines prohibiting such. [I'd like to note that you're in 1-2 discords dedicated to remove me/get me banned.] 3 1 2 Link to comment
Bendak 183 Posted March 4, 2020 Topic Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alex Conway said: Day 5 @ 1:00 PM Day 6 @ 4:26 PM Day 6 @ 8:17 Okay, So he went up 2 ranks in a single day? 5 minutes ago, Alex Conway said: Mass Promotion? No. Simply put, if I want to do an hour cooldown or a day, I can. Simply put. There is no rule against it, but you said that already, so I'm unclear why you posted it, knowing it's not against the rules. I agree I'm not the best leader, but hey at least I'm active. My comments about knowing there's no enlisted rules but saying there was mass promo was directed at the fact that he went up an enlisted Rank in one Day and one Officer Rank. Also as an addition to cement bias, you removed the probationary period for him, then once he got all the way up you re-instated it. Why even remove it in the first place? 8 minutes ago, Alex Conway said: [I'd like to note that you're in 1-2 discords dedicated to remove me/get me banned.] I actually don't know what you're talking about. 1 Link to comment
Bendak 183 Posted March 4, 2020 Topic Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jackal said: Trust me wish I could but given the circumstance I physically can't Okay, so that means that your evidence will incriminate someone else or you. What circumstance besides you or someone else scripting to catch a scripter prevent you from posting it? 9 minutes ago, Jackal said: When you make a post about whether or not someone is bias or breaking a rule and you yourself have a history of doing shady shit that ultimately means you may be a lot less trustworthy. So me making a comment questioning the validity of your claims considering your past isn't hard to grasp Again, not related to this server. So what's the point? Link to comment
Community Director AlexConway 1,168 Posted March 4, 2020 Community Director Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Bendak said: My comments about knowing there's no enlisted rules but saying there was mass promo was directed at the fact that he went up an enlisted Rank in one Day and one Officer Rank. Also as an addition to cement bias, you removed the probationary period for him, then once he got all the way up you re-instated it. Why even remove it in the first place? I brought back SN because my CDR wanted it - not because Kendal was in my faction. Have some sort of evidence to back up your claimshttp://prntscr.com/rb6y27 4 minutes ago, Bendak said: Okay, So he went up 2 ranks in a single day? It was for the next day, I wasn't staying up till 12:00 Midnight to issue a promotion. No one ever has referred to google doc time stamps as concrete timestamps like in game logs. Out of these promotions 5 of them were done after or before the promotion was given. It's not breaking the rules if there's not a rule in the first place. They typed rules for Warrant Officer and Officer, they didn't even put 1 day for enlisted so it makes no sense while you're saying "IN THE SAME DAY" - it's not prohibited ANYWHERE. Link to comment
Bendak 183 Posted March 4, 2020 Topic Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Alex Conway said: I brought back SN because my CDR wanted it SO3 was your probationary rank. You got rid of it being probationary, then promoted kendal. Then you re-instated probationary period at a different rank. 2 minutes ago, Alex Conway said: It was for the next day, I wasn't staying up till 12:00 Midnight to issue a promotion. Thanks for admitting to it lmao. Why wouldn't you just like, idk, wait until the next day? Link to comment
Community Director AlexConway 1,168 Posted March 4, 2020 Community Director Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Bendak said: SO3 was your probationary rank. You got rid of it being probationary, then promoted kendal. Then you re-instated probationary period at a different rank. Even if it was, who says I have to follow my cooldowns, it's not in the server rules. Again I'll throught back 1 hour ago, Bendak said: Now before I go on, I am aware that there aren't any actual rules listed in the MOTD on enlisted promotions. http://prntscr.com/rb71cz You're right, don't know why you keep arguing. 10 minutes ago, Bendak said: Thanks for admitting to it lmao. Why wouldn't you just like, idk, wait until the next day? Admitting I didn't break a server rule, because there isn't one! Damn. Why would I wait? When I don't have to. Doc Timestamps aren't always when the PROMOTION happens, I do them before or after I don't hold up my debrief with editing docs. Read below: 52 minutes ago, Jackal said: Sure I could been a little more open to the report and considering everything but Conway as the faction leader of SEALs didn't violate the rules thus it doesn't warrant a punishment which doesn't take much effort to realize once using your head and being aware that there isn't a set in stone rule for enlisted promotions. Edited March 4, 2020 by AlexConway Link to comment
Homast 377 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) I'm going to say this. Bendak you're out to get Kendal because you think he has something against you Proven by this Discord Screenshot You clearly thought that kendal was going after you for something, And while this isn't an Official GG discord, your conduct is still disgusting regardless. -1 On the report for Kendal because you are biased against him. and you want to talk about Bias.. smhEdited to clarify names with better Names. Edited March 4, 2020 by Homast 1 1 Link to comment
Kendal 450 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 So to me, this looks like more of an attack on my character and less than something you're doing for the good of the community. I appreciate that you want to point out the mistakes I've made in the past, however I myself have owned up to those mistakes and am making changes to better the way that I handle things as a staff member and ultimately the manager of the community. The silo ban has been dealt with, I even spoke to Garnet on it after the fact. That happened before I got manager, and I was still promoted to manager after that. I owned up to my mistake, spending a lot of time going over every possibility trying to find ways that what Silo did wasn't hacking or exploiting purposefully. I didn't work on that ban myself either. It wasn't just me flying Solo, if you talked to Silo you'd know we brought him into the TS channel after his ban to let him give his side of the story to us through voice before he made an appeal. He knew that all of the staff in the channel had agreed that Silo should have been banned. Now I will say, the ban WAS a mistake. I've admitted that many times in the past, and it is one of the things I look back on often reminding me of mistakes I made as a staff member. The -Silo ban to me is a constant reminder that as high as I go as a staff member, I will always make mistakes, and I by no means am the perfect staff member. The Alex Pip ban is a whole other monster on it's own. At the time we had been trying hard to get Evidence on him over a long period of time. Anytime we went to spectate him, he would go from Vega level of skill with a sniper to 11B PV2 levels. So I figured that we were hard pressed to get any evidence on him at all given that his Player skill was incredibly inconsistent when we would spectate him. So I went with an alternative method which I still won't share to avoid it getting out, however I can let you know that nothing external was used to catch Alex Pip. It was done with little known tricks staff can use that are already on the server. Now I had recorded quite a chunky bit of him fighting war, and his skill was on par with Vega for the entirety of the war, no inconsistency whatsoever when I used the alternative method. From what I saw, it warranted a ban. I banned him shortly after checking the clip multiple times to try and see if I could debunk anything I saw (Which I learned to do after the Silo Ban) and then I hit him with the ban. From my end of things, again, I am willing to admit my mistakes. I left the evidence on my boot drive, in a recording folder I use specifically for hacking evidence. I forgot to change the settings of my recording software to save other clips in a different location to avoid cluttering that folder, and so when I went to show Garnet the evidence, I spent a long time looking for it only to Realize that the evidence had been corrupted and Buried under a mountain of war recordings, snipe clips, ban evidence, etc. Once I realized what had happened, I worked on finding Alex Pip's steam ID to unban him. I made a mistake in where I put the evidence, and in turn I unbanned Alex Pip. So in all of what you have brought up as "Kendal not being fit for Manager". A lot of it is assumptions, with no founding proof that I was doing anything malicious with the two mistakes I've made which you pointed to. I didn't know Alex Pip as a person, I didn't know Silo as a person. There was no reason for me to Ban them other than the fact that the staff team was competent that they were breaking the rules. 2 Link to comment
Bendak 183 Posted March 4, 2020 Topic Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Homast said: Bendak you're out to get Kendal because you think he has something against you I've been spectated multiple times. I've had multiple staff at the lower ranks come to me and tell my that I am being targeted by staff to get me banned for cheating. So yeah, I have my own thoughts on how the staff operates and how I feel in the eyes of staff. This post was not made because I think Kendal is out to get me though. This post was made to shine light on actions that he has had a hand in, which I am actually not involved in at all really. This report wasn't made to defend myself in any means. The goal of this post was to focus on upholding standards for the entire server to understand and follow. Link to comment
Guest Gildarts Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Ill talk to garnet later about this report. but this is a reason why I had said all perm bans should go through me for reasons like this. Link to comment
Homast 377 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Bendak said: I am being targeted by staff to get me banned for cheating. So yeah, I have my own thoughts on how the staff operates and how I feel in the eyes of staff. If you play suspiciously, you're going to be spectated, As a veteran of the server, you'd know this better than anyone. Link to comment
Bendak 183 Posted March 4, 2020 Topic Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, Milton said: So I went with an alternative method which I still won't share to avoid it getting out, That is the problem. Evidence shouldn't have to be hidden. All evidence should be shown so the players know that staff are actually upholding their own standards. Failure to provide evidence can set a dangerous precedent. If no evidence is shown, there is a large trust gap between the staff and the community, since this means that staff could ban anyone with an excuse of cheating without providing any valid evidence to back up these claims. 30 minutes ago, Milton said: So to me, this looks like more of an attack on my character and less than something you're doing for the good of the community. My goal is not to attack your character, however your character is shown through your actions as a manager. The goal was to ensure that a persons actions are not left unchecked, and that the standards we set for ourselves are being upheld for everyone. I am refusing to reply on this further, since Gildarts will be talking to Garnet about this personally. 1 4 Link to comment
Volatos 34 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Alex Conway said: SOCM is a rank not in place and is a rank similar to SMMC and SMA Well according to the screenshotts of the docs, SOCM is equivalent to the Navy rank of Master Chief Petty Officer, E9. There is still a rank above this in enlisted which would Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy, which would be the equivalent to SMA or SMMC. SOCM, or in common rank terms MCPO, would be equivalent to Sergeant Major. I'm staying neutral in this whole debacle, but would like to point out this as it seems necessary to the main point. Link to comment
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