Grievances with the Reserves Change - Pt 2

[Kurtle 298]

Reserves Change Part 2!

It has been roughly 3 months since I posted my first thread about the reserves changes that were made by Theos in March. 

This post garnered community support, and after a few months, only the staff vote for past reserves was reinstated. 

The current iteration of the reserves system can be found here:

Proposed Change:

Me, alongside several staff and community members have asked Smity to get rid of the rule that strips reserves when joining a faction on the same side. 
For example, if you joined Green Beret while you have Army reserves, those Army reserves are stripped away.
I believe that this creates a toxic atmosphere around reserves, and new factions. There are several players that have approached me saying that they would love to join a faction, but do not want to lose their reserves on that side.|
This rule only limits what people can do, and the last thing we need in MRP is limits for things that don't actually harm the server at all.

In simple terms, this is what reserves should be (per Ozzy):
 Current - Any faction

US Reserves - 1 Faction

AFG Reserves - 1 Faction

Counterargument
A few popular counterarguments have been brought up by opponents of my proposed change. I will list some, alongside my rebuttals to these.
Players with reserves on the same side as their main life would abuse O-1 permissions
O-1 permissions allow players to do things like Raid, Kidnap, and Assassinate. These are all sources of entertainment for players, and there is no reason to take them away from players who earned them.

Players with reserves can jump directly to officer ranks without working for it, skipping people who are working hard to get officer promos.
In my personal belief, I think that a faction leader should be in control of their faction completely. If someone wants to come off reserves to an officer position, that route should be open to them. However, if the rest of the community sees this as too power hungry, it would be easy to add a rank setback for players coming off reserves, to prevent this. For example, players coming off reserves would be set to a maximum rank of E-7 or some arbitrary rank.
Players don't need reserves at all.
Reserves to me are trophies of accomplishment, and a testament to the incredible dedication and leadership that the players who have them had. Some people argue that reserves should be used by players to assist the factions, and I believe that this can be true in some cases. But mainly, reserves should be used to honor players achievements, giving them a "reward" for their work.

Why did Kurtle have to make a forums post about this?
I was originally against the idea of making a forums post addressing this, as I believe the answer is fairly obvious and this change can be made easily and instantly, and would make mostly the entire community happy. However, I was asked by Smity to make this post to get community feedback, so please feel free to leave your thoughts, agree and disagree on this thread. It will be critical for us to make this decision. Thank you for reading!

https://imgur.com/a/zDZYGu1
(Smity asking for the post)

Edited June 25, 2022 by Kurtle

[Gabeisthat 133]

Hard agree i've never seen a issue with people being in the same side with reserves 

[Bowl22 125]

As someone  who has both tier 1 reserves and spent a absurd amount of time making my way up ranks the thought that I lose my privilege to enjoy my hard work because I wanted to join another faction is rather annoying.

[FordMason 22]

+1

People mainly play on 1 side for a while me being the same.  This would  open up a lot more opportunities for joining factions. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 25, 2022 by FordMason

[Toyto 79]

+1 As someone who has mained US for the entirety of my GG experience, this change would be helpful. While other people who have played on both sides are allowed to have reserves I am forbidden due to the current reserves system.

Edited June 25, 2022 by Toyto

[JackJJ 498]

+1 (I’m just gonna paste here what I posted in the discord) If I had DF reserves, I would not join GB as much as I might want to only out of fear of losing reserves (I know I can ask for them back later, but just even losing them temporarily would be enough of a deterrent for me). This is not how it should be because it can easily lead to a state of being “stuck” in a reserve lock (I.E. I could have 313 reserves and DF reserves, thus locking me from joining any other faction as I will lose the reserves, again even temporarily is enough of deterrent for me and many others). Not only this, but being stuck between two reserves could cause the player’s experience to become stale as they’re not progressing in any faction, and thus causing them to become bored/burnt out and thus leave the server.

To be honest, I don’t really see any major harm in letting people have reserves for both sides. We had the same system in 2021 and it worked fine then.

[Smity_ 257]

Accepted
I will be putting the new reserves tomorrow at some point.  
They will go as follows:
If a person requests a reserves and is accepted they will relinquish that sides reserves if they had any. 
There will be a staff vote for each reserve made. That will be either accepted for denied. The staff that can vote for them can only vote on them if they played during that time period. Reserve requests might be changed in the future as you can only request reserves once you leave and no other time. 
This format will look better once I make the post tomorrow. 
@Luxembourgplease lock and move to accepted

[Rust 185]

+1

Been pushing this. Thanks @Kurtle!!!!!