[MRP] Class Overhaul & Rebalancing

[Ozzy 1,992]

These suggestions will cover 2 of the main goals of the current Executive Team, create a more balanced warzone and offer more room for faction growth.

 

I will be drawing from past and current suggestions, and will note when I do so.

 

 

The Suggestions:

A) Description: This is a suggestion that’s floated around awhile and has recently picked up steam. I’ve discussed it with multiple server leaders including, but not limited to, Crypt, Conway, and Hysteria. They all understand the positive macro-impact this change could have on the server. 

 

Nerf the Orsis and Mosin damage to 80-90. I know that this is going to be the suggestion that will likely receive the most opposition, but I ask that you hear me out. First, take a step back and realize how many one-shot rifles would still be available. GRU Sniper, GRU T3, Vega Recon, Vega T3, Ranger Ghost, DF Sniper, AFSOC T3, Ghillies, and Venal/Merc. There are still plenty of snipers available. With Tora’s Additional Classes suggestion (referred to in “D”), even base factions will have an opportunity for a whitelist sniper.

 

Reasoning: Being a One-Man Army, with a one-shot sniper in particular, has been a gripe for awhile. It hasn’t been until recently where the population is keen on moving towards a more realistic, RP-inclusive view on the server. Those who want to snipe, can, however they would be restricted to those certain whitelists.

 

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B) Description: Normalizing the specialist slots. At the moment, there isn’t consistency among the Sniper and Grenade class slots.

Current: GRU Sniper > 2
SSO SMG > 3
Vega Recon > ∞

 

GB Breacher > 3
Ranger Ghost > 3
DF Sniper > 2

 

Suggested: GRU Sniper > 3
SSO SMG > 3
Vega Recon > 3

 

GB Breacher > 3
Ranger Ghost > 3
DF Sniper > 3

 

Reasoning: Only makes sense to have the slots consistent.

 

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C) Description: Another discrepancy in classes, the Sniper Factions’ Tier 3s. 

 

GRU Brigadier (T3) and Vega Phantom (T3) offer both of their respective faction weapons. In GRU’s case, the AK-103 and SV-98, whereas Vega gets their VSS and JNG in addition to grenades.

US’ Ranger Combat Medic receives their M4M203 and Medkit, whilst Delta Force receives their P90, a SCAR Heavy, and grenades.

 

If we are trying to reduce sniping and simultaneously become more organized in our class loadouts, it makes sense to have the sides be even. I’d like to hear community feedback cause this can go 1 of 2 ways.

 

1. We change the US loadouts to match RU’s

Ranger T3 ( Renamed to Leviathan) > M4M203 and L115

Delta Force T3 > P90 and M82

 

2. We change the RU loadouts to match US’s

GRU T3 (Renamed to Battle Medic/Corpsman) > AK103 and Medkit

Vega T3 > VSS, SKS-d, and Grenades

 

Basically, 1 falls in line with the factions’ specialty, whereas 2 provides more class coverage.

 

Reasoning: Again, it just makes sense to have consistency.

 

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D) This will be the largest of the suggestions. It revolves around the recently accepted suggestion spearheaded by Crypt and Tora.

 

https://garnetgaming.net/forums/index.php?/topic/16569-mrp-class-addition/

 

I’m not certain if it’s in the text but being around Tora, Crypt, and this project for the handful of months it’s been around, the suggestion was designed to get the ball rolling. Not necessarily have end-all be-all values and equipment. After conversations, thinking, and just witnessing the overall movement of the server, I want to run some concrete loadouts and slots by yall.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15QURgvF69x9DEW0HKkj3UBNy9KUe3TJH9QVuuWaUqXg/edit?usp=sharing

 

Differences/Things to note:

 

- All and V & DF whitelists can use the future disguiser NPC

- Edited the 2nd level of V & DF Specialty classes. NO SUICIDE BOMBING WILL BE ALLOWED. Also, during war, the M9K suicide bomb and breaching charges are not usable during war.

- Edited loadout of GRU/Ranger 1st level of Specialty classes. 

- Edited loadout of SSO/GB 2nd level of Specialty classes. Gave them extra love with M9K to give them appeal if donor snipers do get nerfed.

- Made sure base faction classes had their appropriate guns (Officers and DS/RFR getting M4/AK MOD)

- Battle Rifles would need to find a new home/meta setup, as these loadouts will decrease their already low existence.

- SSO SMG would be renamed to > SSO Breacher

 

 

Reasoning: As I said in the very beginning, offering additional ways to progress is a goal of our team. These additional classes allow for more tryouts, recognition, and roleplay. All positives.

 

Additional Info: N/A

 

Edited August 4, 2021 by Ozzy
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[Party 67]

1st of all what a detailed suggestion holy fuck, you put a lot of work into it lol, now lets get to the suggestion itself. as for the first one. A) nerfing the Orsis and Mosin is a great idea i think that factions should have the upper hand when it comes to sniping and the fact that every player can kick you ass from 100 meters away with a donor weapon makes war hell. so im all for nerfing these two guns.

as for the B part of the suggestion. obviously makes sense to make them all even, all faction should be equal (Tier classes wise) so great idea on that.

C part : I agree with number 2 to make the RU classes the same as the US, when we changed GB after MARSOC got wiped i asked garnet for the Scar L + i believe it was the M95, both him and jake agreed that its too OP so this change makes sense. 

as for D nothing much to add really you covered it all. 

Overall +1

[Westt 171]

Only thing missing here is the P90 spread buff!!!!

For real though, I agree with basically all of the points. As for point C, if snipers are getting nerfed it would only make sense to match the RU classes rn. T3 already costs like 75 dollars so it would make sense to have the factions rifle and sniper at your disposal on that class.

[Fonza 249]

I'm in total support of nerfing the Orsis and Mosin as they are to help fill in a gap within a certain loadout.

The class balancing should of been a thing long ago, but due to recent events, I can see why it's not at the top of the to-do list.

Overall I give this suggestion a +1.

[StraightWhiteChristianMale 563]

This looks very well thought out, +1

[Zedd 93]

+1 (even thought this is a pretty late reply) , this is genuinely a great idea and hopefully it gets implemented

[Reggie 3]

+1 Seeing this design philosophy with the introduction of Tali would be quite poggers

[Texas 170]

On 8/3/2021 at 6:28 PM, Ozzy said:

GRU T3 (Renamed to Battle Medic/Corpsman) > AK103 and Medkit

+1 everything in this post except this one. T3 is 75$. If you spend that much to use a single class you should be getting the best weapons the faction has.

[Salmon 488]

Denied

As we are no longer US v RU, a US v AFG version would need to be made for acceptance.

@Fonza @Proggy lock and move please