I learned my lesson

[ToxinsLivid 21]

2 minutes ago, MoldyHotpocket said:

I guarantee you anyone who regularly plays Garry's Mod DarkRP has been exposed to far worse.

I didnt know you spoke for ever person who might have seen that textscreen. It doesnt have to be regular player just anyone who might be a minor and saw that to make it not ok.  Regardless it was a porn link. that's still a perma ban and because of that he got banned. I don't think he should be unbanned just because 6 months passed by.

[Kazdra | Beast 27]

+1, I have taken a look at the context of what you have written in your ban appeals, going from avoiding it and being rude to owing up to it as your fault.  You have definitely changed.

2 hours ago, ToxinsLivid said:

I would agree if it wasn't a porn link on a server full of minors. And giving minor the means to view that content in itself I would consider malicious. It's bad enough we have 10 year olds screaming the N word lets not give leniency to people distributing porn sites. 

Considering the fact that Steam is a free source where one can make purchases of a game and the servers aren't moderated too much?  I believe it's fully justifiable that open servers should be considered rated M+. ESPECIALLY private servers.

5 hours ago, ToxinsLivid said:

It doesn't make sense to have a perma-ban if you can just apologize and come back.

No sure why MRP guys are giving +1.

And if this belief is "cringy" to you please go back to MRP and stay off DarkRP ban appeals.

The purpose of making a ban appeal is an attempt to be unbanned if others agree with it or not.  Additionally it's not up to you to decide how a player may comment due to the fact it's an open source for players to input their comment and ideas.  MRP & DarkRP has nothing to do with forums, it's just the relativistic terms in which it's categorized for easier finding and categorizing for later if archived.

[ToxinsLivid 21]

22 minutes ago, Romulus said:

Putting a link that you have to go out of your way to look for, isnt broadcasting.

Remember he was banned for Advertising Pornography.

If what you said was the case then people putting there discord, youtube, snapchat, etc. would be ok because you would have to go out of your way to look it up. 

Porn and advertising is both Perma-ban separately. In my opinion any link or website displayed on text screen, ooc, verbal, or otherwise is considered advertising. That's why forums links are the only one allowed besides of course link that provide proof. I believe this rule was put in place to protect users from bad links like porn, ip grabbers, and vulgar sites. 

Yes a warning first could have helped but it shouldn't even have to been said. It common sense. 

Edited May 30, 2020 by ToxinsLivid

[WhiteBolt 33]

3 hours ago, ToxinsLivid said:

nd if this belief is "cringy" to you please go back to MRP and stay off DarkRP ban appeals.   

Ummmmm I’m an MRP main and I was DRP staff.....

 

Why don’t we stay on topic and talk about the appeal thank you

 

and for the appeal +1 

it would be like someone saying “I’m gonna put up the company name Microsoft” and getting banned. Advertising bans should occur when someone advertises in chat and or in text screens in a form of a link not a company name, especially a company legit a 10 year old knows

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by WhiteBolt

[ToxinsLivid 21]

2 minutes ago, Romulus said:

If you linked to a private discord not being directly advertised by garnet himself than yes that would be advertising. Same with every other platform. If he advertised his pornhub account then I'd agree with you, but considering it is a well known website that is a video/search engine I don't believe it warrants a ban. Putting youtube.com in a textscreen or OOC chat shouldnt get you banned, neither should this. Putting a youtube linked to your channel however is a completely different situation.

OK I can agree with that since it wasn't specifically target to one persons account or profiles then it is a bit of a grey area on the Advertising but since it was still a porn site I still don't think it is right. I don't think the nature of the site makes it any better just because it's well known. 

[Kazdra | Beast 27]

26 minutes ago, ToxinsLivid said:

Yes a warning first could have helped but it shouldn't even have to been said. It common sense. 

 

3 hours ago, ToxinsLivid said:

10 year olds

The similarities between these 2 posts is that said 10 year olds he wants to protect may be banned for the first time for just saying a dumb fake website name which might actually exist.

 

26 minutes ago, ToxinsLivid said:

Remember he was banned for Advertising Pornography.

If what you said was the case then people putting there discord, youtube, snapchat, etc. would be ok because you would have to go out of your way to look it up. 

Porn and advertising is both Perma-ban separately. In my opinion any link or website displayed on text screen, ooc, verbal, or otherwise is considered advertising. That's why forums links are the only one allowed besides of course link that provide proof. I believe this rule was put in place to protect users from bad links like porn, ip grabbers, and vulgar sites. 

Keep in mind what I've mentioned before making a post about this shit: (Take a step back and read instead of typing like no tomorrow)

46 minutes ago, Kazdra | Beast said:

Considering the fact that Steam is a free source where one can make purchases of a game and the servers aren't moderated too much?  I believe it's fully justifiable that open servers should be considered rated M+. ESPECIALLY private servers.

 

Additionally I'd like to add on to your whole:

26 minutes ago, ToxinsLivid said:

If what you said was the case then people putting there discord, youtube, snapchat, etc. would be ok because you would have to go out of your way to look it up. 

Saying Discord in general? Fine, servers however? No.  Youtube? Fine as long as it's appropriate.  Snapchat is dying so who the fuck uses that? and ANY other social media account you could use has some vulgar shit in it.  Not everyone deserves to be protected if their own curiosities spark themselves into a downward spiral.  If they get there it's there fault if they found it on there own.  You can "discourage" that shit all you want, but it still doesn't mean it's going to happen one way or another.

Additionally there is FACTUAL evidence that if something is targeted FOR kids, it will most likely have Adults liking it as well and fucking it up (I.E. MLP, Disney Movies, Kids TV Shows, etc.)  You can only keep someone safe for so long before they get blasted with the real world.

26 minutes ago, ToxinsLivid said:

Porn and advertising is both Perma-ban separately. In my opinion any link or website displayed on text screen, ooc, verbal, or otherwise is considered advertising. That's why forums links are the only one allowed besides of course link that provide proof. I believe this rule was put in place to protect users from bad links like porn, ip grabbers, and vulgar sites. 

Lastly, no.  No Advertising is a marketing ploy to prevent users from being persuaded to leave and go somewhere else.  IRL Example is Walmart & Sam's Club having a ban on talk about telling Customers to go shop at Target & BJ's. (I had received a strike when working at Sam's Club for suggesting BJ's for a service we did not have at the time.)

All servers have banning of advertising except for their own services for a good reason.  Sometimes it's better because it categorizes into more categories instead of "Don't post links of other servers/competitions as well as their name".

 

Edit: This is going to be my last post because I'm not going to fight someone who's Signature matches their thinking.

Edited May 30, 2020 by Kazdra | Beast
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[Doof123 54]

Damn if i start sayin Youtube.com, im i gonna get banned, No. This ban is wack flat out. If someone aint posting non GG links or some shit like that then dont ban. like come on. there is a difference between advertising and fucking around. this man is obviously sorry he is putting in the work to play on this server that he probably enjoys.  There is a difference between posting Pornhub all over and an actual Pornhub link. Use your heads DRP staff, like shit.

+1

[ToxinsLivid 21]

2 minutes ago, Doof123 said:

There is a difference between posting Pornhub all over and an actual Pornhub link. Use your heads DRP staff, like shit.

He didn't post "Pornhub" He posted "Pornhub.com" so yes there is a difference. He did post the actual link. so "like shit" we are using our head.

5 minutes ago, Zachman said:

going off what you say here,  dark rp is to terrorize things, there a literally jobs as a prostitute witch relates to this ban and drug dealers to make meth, drp is not kid friendly at all and encourages all bad things

Yes, darkrp isn't friendly but that doesn't change the fact that kids still play on it. Which is why I understand it is still not appropriate to have it on the servers anyway.

 

11 minutes ago, Kazdra | Beast said:

Considering the fact that Steam is a free source where one can make purchases of a game and the servers aren't moderated too much?  I believe it's fully justifiable that open servers should be considered rated M+. ESPECIALLY private servers.

The thing is Steam itself moderates games considered MA. If a game is considered MA then it asks for your date of birth. Obviously this is basically a joke but Gmod does not ask for age. Anyone with a steam card can get it. And anyone with Gmod and an internet connection can get on GarnetGaming DarkRP.  There isnt any kind of maturity warning at all from the process of getting steam to logging onto the server.  

But you can't just rope all Private servers as MA+ when there is no form of warning or age check. 

 

Basically Kids ARE playing on this server. There is no moderation to prevent them. If you take a little approach on explicate content like this then it looks bad on the staff who let it slide and the community for not taking is serious

Ultimately it comes down to should someone who could have exposed a minor to a porn site be unbanned after 6 months because he was sorry? It no longer is a question of if the staff was wrong or not. There are 4 other denied ban appeals and even Ikonasty himself saying that what the staff did was right. 

 I do not think taking a light approach on this is the smart play. It will remain a -1 for me. Feel free to disagree.

 

[Doof123 54]

6 minutes ago, ToxinsLivid said:

He didn't post "Pornhub" He posted "Pornhub.com" so yes there is a difference. He did post the actual link. so "like shit" we are using our head.

Yall are fuckin snowflakes yo, ban happy little Snowflakes. No Pornhub.com should not be bannable. You need to stop acting like this man committed a felony, if you want to protect what little rep you have left, Stop Replying because you are digging yourself a hole. For the sake of common fucking sense use your skull and unban this man. If I posted Google.com and got banned id be pissed. this man is being pleasant and respectable and obviously cares about this server.

Edited May 30, 2020 by Doof123
Thinking harder

[eli_ 641]

Everyone who is responding with anything but +1's or -1's STOP. Applies are not a place to argue. Take it to DM's if you're gonna keep trying to flame each other in a public manner. 

With that being said:

You obviously admitted to advertising whether it was intentional or not, you still advertised it. Wait till the next ban wipe.

-1

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8 minutes ago, Doof123 said:

Yall are fuckin snowflakes yo, ban happy little Snowflakes. No Pornhub.com should not be bannable. You need to stop acting like this man committed a felony, if you want to protect what little rep you have left, Stop Replying because you are digging yourself a hole. For the sake of common fucking sense use your skull and unban this man. If I posted Google.com and got banned id be pissed. this man is being pleasant and respectable and obviously cares about this server.

The issue I have with your analogy is that Google.com just leads to a search engine, which isn't the same content as linking someone to pornographic videos. The reason why it's different is because one links to content that does distribute porn, while the other doesn't, unless of course that google link is a google image search link that leads to porn. I believe his ban was for advertising pornography, not for advertising in general which is shown in this appeal: 

 

I don't know if he intentionally left that out because he wanted to make staff look stupid, or if he just forgot to add pornography after advertising.

Advertising pornography is a bannable offense, even if it's just to the website and not a specific video, considering you're greeted by a plethora of porn videos on the homepage itself. The reason for this is so Garnet and the community isn't held accountable for distributing porn to minors (yes this is illegal in the States) and this is the way to avoid such issues.

[Guest proggy]

Accepted

On your first appeal you lied saying you didn't do it. On your second appeal, you felt entitled to an unban because the staff who banned you was no longer staff.

However on this appeal you do seem sincere, and take full responsibility for it. It is obviously a very borderline case of advertising that should've been corrected with a verbal warn.

 

You have been unbanned.

Please look over our rules when you return, some things have changed since you last played.

Looking forward to seeing you back on the server.